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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 18 Apr 22 2.24pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Always felt it would be a tight game.
By half time I exchanged a few text messages with a Chelsea supporting mate and we both agreed, it would come down to the first team to make a mistake that would pay the price. And so it went. Mitchell made an error (not in any way blaming him for being human after all!) which led to their opening goal.
After that it is inevitable we were going to have to give it a bit more of a go, which leaves us more open at the back and a team with Chelsea's quality are always going to find the openings and add to their lead.
But I still maintain now that had Chelsea been the one to make that first mistake we would have gone on to win the game.
Its always very fine margins against these quality top level teams. I remain proud of what we have achieved in a short space of time and excited about the future going forward.
I just hope we strengthen in the summer and dont cash in on any of our bright young stars.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 18 Apr 22 2.28pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

I know this won’t go down well with most fans but if we get a AWB type offer for Mitchell I would take it. As good as he is defending he is so poor on the ball that it causes us a lot of issues.

Mitchell has been one of the POTY this season, but he is very one footed. When he's forced inside he struggles. Chelsea did their homework and rarely let him play the ball down the line and he barely got forward. I think he's at his level with us despite the attention he's received and the England call-up.

Chelsea were great out of possession yesterday, especially in the second half, and rarely left our midfield or defence with many options and hence they kept giving the ball away. The other big difference was second half they made more effective use of Werner's pace. He is in form and has to be one if not the fastest player in the PL up against possibly one of the slowest in Ward. There was no contest.

Against the teams outside the top six I think we've only lost two or three games all season, so hopefully we can continue that form for the rest of the season and finish on a high.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Apr 22 2.51pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

An even first half when Chelsea were not at their best, I expected them to play with far greater aplomb in the second period and this proved to be the case.

They were the much better team after the break and overall deserved their win.We never really laid a glove on them in the second half and lost our way with the substitutions.

We are a 'Work in progress' and in transition, and I never expected us to reach the final.We are simply not in their class.
Had we pulled off an unexpected victory we would only had to play Liverpool in the final !

I really want a strong finish in the league to propel us up the table.

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag 18 Apr 22 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

Don’t think we played to our potential. Hate to say it but Vieira went a bit Roy…I didn’t like the starting line up but we held our own. Then we went one down and I’m not sure he made the right calls. Fine he brought on Olise but Benteke? What has Édouard done to fall behind Christian? Especially as we didn’t play to Benteke’s strengths. Oh well.

Agree with you there mate, As soon as i saw the starting line up i knew we would lose , Edouard must be thinking i must be fair s***e if Benteke can get a run before me . Dont know whats going on there .I was thinking whats next , brnging on Jario .

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 18 Apr 22 4.07pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

To beat Chelsea, Palace needed to be at their absolute best. That's in terms of performance and tactics. Then hope that Chelsea are having a collective off day. Then hope for a slice of luck.

At half time yesterday I thought we were doing enough to stay in the game but no more than that. I also figured that Tuchel would not tolerate another 45 minutes of below par performances from his team.

As is often the case against the best teams, a turnover of possession was harshly punished. But it was undeniable that Chelsea had stepped up a gear in the second half and we would struggle to hold them.

I was surprised at PV's team selection and tactics, and for an hour we were competitive but little more than that. It's easy to critisise a safety first approach, but also easy to understand his first intention was to frustrate them and hope to nick a goal and hang onto it.

What next needs to be a concerted effort from the players to get some more points on the board and achieve a decent finish to the season. Sentiments that PV has already expressed.

 


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NE14T Flag 18 Apr 22 4.40pm

Anderson appears to be weak in the air if you watch him. His timing on the jump is woeful and he seems to close his eyes in an anguished grimace like a 6 year does when first learning. Is he worried about a aerial collision or the ball itself? His miss to get level was of no surprise to me.
The coaches need to take him aside in training to assess and work on that aspect of his game.
May seem a bit harsh but my honest assessment.

 


The beatings will stop when morale improves.

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 18 Apr 22 4.47pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

We needed that one off Kouyaté’s shoulder to bobble in off the post, Chelsea to panic having gone behind and for us to hold on defensively like we did recently in the league game against Man City.

We needed that bit of luck to keep it at 0-0 and then go ahead mid to late on in the second half. We did the first bit but Mitchell’s error cost us big time and there was just no way back.

Really need to refocus and have a strong finish to the season. I fear we won’t and that Shighton might actually finish above us

Edited by Phil’s Barber (18 Apr 2022 4.48pm)

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 18 Apr 22 5.10pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

To beat Chelsea, Palace needed to be at their absolute best. That's in terms of performance and tactics. Then hope that Chelsea are having a collective off day. Then hope for a slice of luck.

At half time yesterday I thought we were doing enough to stay in the game but no more than that. I also figured that Tuchel would not tolerate another 45 minutes of below par performances from his team.

As is often the case against the best teams, a turnover of possession was harshly punished. But it was undeniable that Chelsea had stepped up a gear in the second half and we would struggle to hold them.

I was surprised at PV's team selection and tactics, and for an hour we were competitive but little more than that. It's easy to critisise a safety first approach, but also easy to understand his first intention was to frustrate them and hope to nick a goal and hang onto it.

What next needs to be a concerted effort from the players to get some more points on the board and achieve a decent finish to the season. Sentiments that PV has already expressed.

Rubbish. You make out they are unbeatable and we had a 1% chance. Chelsea dont need an off day to be beaten. They are not Gods. They have had a full strength squad out and played well plenty of times this season and still been beaten. They actually were the better team for most of the game against Brentford who beat them 4 0.
All this putting Chelsea on a pedastol is small club mentality nonsense. They are a bigger and wealthier club than us and have greater resources than us. But we have built a team that can compete with the big clubs. If that was not the case how come we have easily beaten Spurs and Arsenal, Should have got something against Liverpool, deserved the win against West Ham and have not conceded a goal against City?
To suggest we need four or five things to go our way (and a big slice of luck) to get a result against Chelsea is frankly disrespectful to our players and coaching staff. They are way better than that

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag 18 Apr 22 5.22pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

They also had about 400 million worth of talent on the bench . Its hard to compete with that ! and yet they only beat us 2-0 and we had 2 great chances to score, you do need a slice of luck .

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 18 Apr 22 6.12pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

My thoughts for ehat they're worth.

Always thought we eoukd struggle without Gallagher.we just don't have a midfield without him.

Schlupp is not and never will be a central midfielder.

Time for Wilf to say goodbye

We still haven't got a decent striker

Why did ward replace cline when he's played so well lately.

Personally think Mitchell was still injured and shouldn't have played, but we had no other left back

It's going to be a real struggle to hold onto olise this summer

We probably need to get rid of another 4 or 5 deadweights on the summer, but can we afford to replace them.

Can see us finishing 13th/14th, which I would have taken at the start, but would feel disappointed now.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 18 Apr 22 7.14pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Rubbish. You make out they are unbeatable and we had a 1% chance. Chelsea dont need an off day to be beaten. They are not Gods. They have had a full strength squad out and played well plenty of times this season and still been beaten. They actually were the better team for most of the game against Brentford who beat them 4 0.
All this putting Chelsea on a pedastol is small club mentality nonsense. They are a bigger and wealthier club than us and have greater resources than us. But we have built a team that can compete with the big clubs. If that was not the case how come we have easily beaten Spurs and Arsenal, Should have got something against Liverpool, deserved the win against West Ham and have not conceded a goal against City?
To suggest we need four or five things to go our way (and a big slice of luck) to get a result against Chelsea is frankly disrespectful to our players and coaching staff. They are way better than that

I tell you what is disrespectful. You describing my opinion as '' rubbish ''.

And where exactly do I say that ??

I stand by what I wrote. I read today that we have lost the last 9 games against Chelsea. So yes, we need to be at our best and them not to be to beat them. If you think Chelsea were the better team yet ended up losing to Brentford ( it was actually 1-4 ) then it sounds like Brentford had one of those days when it all went their way - kind of what I was saying !

Against the three best teams in the league, we have taken 4 points, all against Man City. Are you seriously saying that Arsenal and Spurs are on the same level as Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea ?

And just for clarity, I have the utmost respect for our manager and our players. They gave it a good go yesterday, but as PV said himself , '' there is still a big gap between Chelsea and ourselves ''.

 


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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 18 Apr 22 7.40pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

For the rest of the season, the benchmark for progress for me has always been 50 points. The first few years after promotion, 40 points was the target; now, I think 50 points is a reasonable standard if we want to raise the bar. In recent seasons 39-43 points-ish has been our level but I see no reason why we shouldn't at least aim for 50 this year. It would require 13 points from 7 games which is probably four wins, a draw, and two losses; tough but not impossible, and I think with 50 points, regardless of league position (though it would be no worse than 10th-ish) I'd be very happy. To be honest, with the number of points we've left on the table this year (Brighton H, Arsenal A, Chelsea H, etc.) we should almost have got there already.

 


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