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 Painter  Croydon 21 Apr 22 12.28pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I would be inclined to suggest that finishing between 6th-10/11/12th should be the clubs '5 year plan'. Anything beyond that is of course an achievement. I'll still find it hard to envisage wanting for more than finishing 17th+ with the odd scalp or cup run as a bonus. We look set to achieve that this season. What do you expect? The odds are massively against us, we never going to win the league, unless we have a massive injection of investment from somewhere. Everton have spent over a billion pounds chasing the dream and are languishing below us. Watching Palace over the years has always been either promotion or relegation battle, now we haven’t been in any relegation problems for about 6 seasons, people are getting bored. Personally this season has been more enjoyable as the style we play is more entertaining in the whole and we are moving in the right direction.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Apr 22 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you look at Newcastle as an example, it is clear that they can now spend in line with the top 4 clubs. Top players will see the results over the coming few seasons and consider them as an option. We've got them if they don't go to Chelsea.
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taylors lovechild  21 Apr 22 12.37pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have had this debate outside of HOL. Edited by Willo (21 Apr 2022 10.38am) You're right Willo. Statistically those who spend more take the top positions. Money doesn't guarantee success, but those who have success have money. We don't really, at least in comparison to probably at least half the PL. Last night was one of the few performances this season where I've been frustrated and a bit bored. By comparison, last season I only saw a few performances where I wasn't bored or frustrated even when we won. Given we are unlikely to be playing CL football or winning major trophies it is nice to at least have some decent football to enjoy. For me Vieira has managed to find a balance between entertainment and pragmatism. He has a good team around him and generally remains calm but with an air of authority. For all the niggly fouls and diving, Bruno Guimarães showed last night what a lot of money can get you i.e. a tough tackling, ball playing defensive midfielder.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Apr 22 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
You're right Willo. Statistically those who spend more take the top positions. Money doesn't guarantee success, but those who have success have money. We don't really, at least in comparison to probably at least half the PL. Last night was one of the few performances this season where I've been frustrated and a bit bored. By comparison, last season I only saw a few performances where I wasn't bored or frustrated even when we won. Given we are unlikely to be playing CL football or winning major trophies it is nice to at least have some decent football to enjoy. For me Vieira has managed to find a balance between entertainment and pragmatism. He has a good team around him and generally remains calm but with an air of authority. For all the niggly fouls and diving, Bruno Guimarães showed last night what a lot of money can get you i.e. a tough tackling, ball playing defensive midfielder. A fee of £36 Mill rising to £42 Mill.
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Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 21 Apr 22 12.49pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
A fee of £36 Mill rising to £42 Mill. What's that? Is the number 1 role the goalkeeper?
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| taylors lovechild 21 Apr 22 12.50pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
A fee of £36 Mill rising to £42 Mill. Looks like money well spent. Chris Wood on the other hand, not so much.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Apr 22 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
What's that? Is the number 1 role the goalkeeper? A box-to-box midfielder akin to the roles played by Gerrard and Lampard.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Apr 22 12.56pm |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
Looks like money well spent. Chris Wood on the other hand, not so much. Wood cost Newcastle £25 Mill.He has scored 2 goals in 14 games for them.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 21 Apr 22 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
You're right Willo. Statistically those who spend more take the top positions. Money doesn't guarantee success, but those who have success have money. We don't really, at least in comparison to probably at least half the PL. Last night was one of the few performances this season where I've been frustrated and a bit bored. By comparison, last season I only saw a few performances where I wasn't bored or frustrated even when we won. Given we are unlikely to be playing CL football or winning major trophies it is nice to at least have some decent football to enjoy. For me Vieira has managed to find a balance between entertainment and pragmatism. He has a good team around him and generally remains calm but with an air of authority. For all the niggly fouls and diving, Bruno Guimarães showed last night what a lot of money can get you i.e. a tough tackling, ball playing defensive midfielder. He was very good first half, but seemed to run out of legs 2nd half and resorted to throwing himself around.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 21 Apr 22 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
I think with the investment, it is a poor season so far 10th is the least i would expect, 4 places up, from that outlay, do you think Textor is going to put another 90m in, he wont, we will be looking for free transfers and bargains unless we sell, Edouard is awful, Gallagher is not creative, poor passer, and poor tackling hence 57 fouls and ten bookings, he has a fantastic engine and can finish, a midfield of Kouyate, Schlupp, and Gallagher is unbalanced. Which says more about you than the club.
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| Midlands Eagle 21 Apr 22 1.09pm |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
I think with the investment, it is a poor season so far 10th is the least i would expect, If you cast your mind back to the beginning of the season you will see that most people on this forum said that it would be a season of transition and as long a we escaped relegation most would be happy. The season has been much better than originally thought as we have been playing attractive football and if it wasn't for those daft goals that we gave away in the 90th minute earlier in the season we would be much higher up the table
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Apr 22 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If you cast your mind back to the beginning of the season you will see that most people on this forum said that it would be a season of transition and as long a we escaped relegation most would be happy. The season has been much better than originally thought as we have been playing attractive football and if it wasn't for those daft goals that we gave away in the 90th minute earlier in the season we would be much higher up the table I concur with these comments. I believe that at the end of this season we will have achieved more than was generally expected. Edited by Willo (21 Apr 2022 1.14pm)
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