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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 19 May 22 6.13pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

We have Tayo Adaramola ('Mola') waiting in the wings just like AWB had to here.

'You do the maths'.

Looks like United want to sell not loan, we may need the money for other targets.


As far as I'm aware he's a LB and is already being groomed as back-up or challenger for Mitchell's position.

AWB would be a RB option. However, I wouldn't want him if there was an obligation to buy as I assume he'd be too expensive. But if Man U can't offload him elsewhere, who knows, although I expect there will be takers for a RB who can defend.

 

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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hamburg 19 May 22 6.34pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

I'd be interested in bringing him back. Loved him when he was here. I'd offer 15m plus 10m (in long, drawn out, impossible) add ons.

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 20 May 22 4.35pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

I think it's a question of a). timing and b). an honest assessment of whether Nathan Ferguson is expected to have a future (as a footballer, let alone at Palace).

Timing: Our funds are finite and we have a few holes to fill in the squad this summer (not least in midfield). While we do need a long-term answer at RB and I do in general terms like the idea of one of our own (AWB) coming back home, I'm pretty confident we can get at least one more season out of Clyne/Ward. Given how those two have handled things this season, I'm inclined to think our need to find a new RB isn't as urgent as I thought it was a few months ago.

Ferguson: He's in the last year of his contract next season. If he can finally get fit and start playing and he comes through next season then our need for AWB is vastly diminished. Why not give our investment in Ferguson one more year to pay off, with Ward/Clyne also in the mix, before deciding to spend money on someone who would essentially be a replacement for all three?

On balance, I don't think the timing is right for AWB. At the end of next season it might be, but I'm not so sure we need him this summer. I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.

 


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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 20 May 22 6.12pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

I completely agree with you; I, like many I suspect, have been surprised how well Ward and Clyne have adapted to a new style of play and no reason to suppose they won't continue next season.

I must say I wonder a little bit about WB. He emerged very suddenly at Palace and I wonder just how good he is - certainly in an attacking sense. It seems incredible that Man Utd forked out close to 50m after one good season and now, 24 months later, they want to move him on.

 

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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 20 May 22 6.32pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

I'd be interested in bringing him back. Loved him when he was here. I'd offer 15m plus 10m (in long, drawn out, impossible) add ons.

they may still owe us half the money as will be paying us in instalments.
I remember this happening when we got Wilf back and we only had to pay them approx 3.5m in the end.

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 20 May 22 6.45pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

I think AWB has a Premier league future, but on a weaker team that does not dominate possession. He has not developed sufficient attacking skills and, at United, seems loth to track back with any alacrity when the opposition counter-attacks
He just no longer seems to fit the way we play or our aspirations for the future

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 20 May 22 7.23pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

I think AWB has a Premier league future, but on a weaker team that does not dominate possession. He has not developed sufficient attacking skills and, at United, seems loth to track back with any alacrity when the opposition counter-attacks

On the evidence of the past two seasons, I'd agree with that. However, whether it's due to a lack of ability or simply very poor coaching at United is less clear. Plenty of talented players have seen their careers go into reverse at Old Trafford the past two years so I'm not convinced the problem is entirely down to AWB's lack of ability.

In fact, I look at how many Palace players have improved dramatically this season with the top-class coaching team we now have (Gallagher, Mateta, etc.) and I can't help wondering what they could do with AWB, restoring his confidence and developing his game. I'd argue that the raw materials are there and I'd trust PV and his coaching team to get the best out of him.

The truth is United have wasted two years of a very promising young player's career. But he's still young and far from a write-off yet.


Originally posted by pssguy

He just no longer seems to fit the way we play or our aspirations for the future

That me be true, but I'd let Vieira make that decision. Quite seriously, he knows exactly what he (and we) need. If PV wants AWB, I'd be more than happy to back him.

 


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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 20 May 22 8.01pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

I'd be interested in bringing him back. Loved him when he was here. I'd offer 15m plus 10m (in long, drawn out, impossible) add ons.

I like the sound of the "add ons" perhaps Man U winning anything soon!

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 20 May 22 9.54pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

they may still owe us half the money as will be paying us in instalments.
I remember this happening when we got Wilf back and we only had to pay them approx 3.5m in the end.


No

SP even stated he wanted it all and that was agreed.


We only paid that much for Wilf because we had paid a loan fee if you listen to the people involved with the deal Palace paid the same amount United did for him which was around 13-16m.

 


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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 20 May 22 11.22pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


No

SP even stated he wanted it all and that was agreed.


We only paid that much for Wilf because we had paid a loan fee if you listen to the people involved with the deal Palace paid the same amount United did for him which was around 13-16m.

SP may have wanted the whole 50m as in no to only paying some if he gets caps for England, wins Premier League etc. But it is very unusual for a English club to pay another all the money in one go and not over a number of years.

And I remember hearing different about Zaha so I beg to differ.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 21 May 22 2.20am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Euros 8 million with add ons relating to goals and international appearances.

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 22 May 22 9.40pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

What happened to him today, is injured?

 

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