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Originally posted by cryrst

Net zero is the biggest con ever.
How many millions are buying this crap.
The ice caps have melted and reformed 6 times in 600k years.
July was hotter in 1925. Animals have come and gone for centuries.
As I said early on. Follow the money and beware the smart meter. Big brother is coming back on TV and we are in the real version

I so wish I could put you in contact with the climate scientist I knew more than 20 years ago. She would have been able to convince you that you are wrong, of that I am 100% certain. She knew it is true. She had the stats, and was one of our leading people interpreting them. She had no interest in, or influence from, politicians. She was the least money motivated person I have ever known, lived simply, worked all hours and was dedicated to the truth and nothing else.

This level of climate change is not a natural variation. It is man made and the result of the pace of industrialisation.

If we fail to deal with it, our grandchildren will suffer all the pain imaginable. We need to suffer some of that pain now, to protect them. It has nothing to do with people seeking profit, although some will profit. The profit motive being the best driver of action. We are steering the direction.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 Aug 22 9.56am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I so wish I could put you in contact with the climate scientist I knew more than 20 years ago. She would have been able to convince you that you are wrong, of that I am 100% certain. She knew it is true. She had the stats, and was one of our leading people interpreting them. She had no interest in, or influence from, politicians. She was the least money motivated person I have ever known, lived simply, worked all hours and was dedicated to the truth and nothing else.

This level of climate change is not a natural variation. It is man made and the result of the pace of industrialisation.

If we fail to deal with it, our grandchildren will suffer all the pain imaginable. We need to suffer some of that pain now, to protect them. It has nothing to do with people seeking profit, although some will profit. The profit motive being the best driver of action. We are steering the direction.

So she could explain why the ice caps melted way before 200 years ago; 6 x in 600k years? She can explain why she won’t alter her stance as to why CO2 isn’t the main problem for ‘global warming’ but methane is. (28 x quicker over 100 years). She can explain why the worst case scenario is used; not a mean temperature rise of even the lowest it might be. I have said that I think we are contributing; my concern is the actual amount of impact.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Aug 22 11.30am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I so wish I could put you in contact with the climate scientist I knew more than 20 years ago. She would have been able to convince you that you are wrong, of that I am 100% certain. She knew it is true. She had the stats, and was one of our leading people interpreting them. She had no interest in, or influence from, politicians. She was the least money motivated person I have ever known, lived simply, worked all hours and was dedicated to the truth and nothing else.

This level of climate change is not a natural variation. It is man made and the result of the pace of industrialisation.

If we fail to deal with it, our grandchildren will suffer all the pain imaginable. We need to suffer some of that pain now, to protect them. It has nothing to do with people seeking profit, although some will profit. The profit motive being the best driver of action. We are steering the direction.

I suspect people would take it more seriously - even jump right on board with it - if they saw the government and companies being proactive. This has been mooted for years and it's pretty obvious where I live, and in Britain, that we could have renewable energy coming out of ears, from the sea and from rivers, wind and solar power. Instead, governments have done nothing and are just charging people extra tax money. That money isn't doing anything either except the usual.
We could be net zero anytime we wanted. We don't make anything. We barely have factories. The river where I live would easily power the city and wouldn't even be expensive. It could easily be done in an environmentally sensitive way. It used to power the factories that produced a large part of Britain's WWI munitions - now nothing, some rich American anglers. Solar would be problematic but wind and sea (we're on the coast) would also power the rest of the country.
You have to come to the conclusion that this is a money racket as there are no large scale plans to go renewable. Just plans to hike prices, tax more or limit people. No wonder people are fed up with this.
Anyone take a look around for five minutes and see where your power could come from. It really isn't rocket science - the technology all exists. Then look at what's happening. The sum total of nothing except taxes and higher charges.

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I suspect people would take it more seriously - even jump right on board with it - if they saw the government and companies being proactive. This has been mooted for years and it's pretty obvious where I live, and in Britain, that we could have renewable energy coming out of ears, from the sea and from rivers, wind and solar power. Instead, governments have done nothing and are just charging people extra tax money. That money isn't doing anything either except the usual.
We could be net zero anytime we wanted. We don't make anything. We barely have factories. The river where I live would easily power the city and wouldn't even be expensive. It could easily be done in an environmentally sensitive way. It used to power the factories that produced a large part of Britain's WWI munitions - now nothing, some rich American anglers. Solar would be problematic but wind and sea (we're on the coast) would also power the rest of the country.
You have to come to the conclusion that this is a money racket as there are no large scale plans to go renewable. Just plans to hike prices, tax more or limit people. No wonder people are fed up with this.
Anyone take a look around for five minutes and see where your power could come from. It really isn't rocket science - the technology all exists. Then look at what's happening. The sum total of nothing except taxes and higher charges.

If the planet was as fecked as these scientists say then what you propose would be happening worldwide. We would all be offered a turbine in our gardens and solar panels on our roofs for free as if in their opinion ; nothing is done we are done for anyway. Why put a timeline of 2050 if it’s that bad. Damage done in the next 28 years apparently won’t matter
The issue seems that going against this as a learned fellow gets you cancelled and no one really wants that. It just appears to be yet another form of bullying as with BLM and kneeling and wall to wall tarts football by tv channels. If your not with us your clearly the enemy and your opinion is not worth listening to.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

If the planet was as fecked as these scientists say then what you propose would be happening worldwide. We would all be offered a turbine in our gardens and solar panels on our roofs for free as if in their opinion ; nothing is done we are done for anyway. Why put a timeline of 2050 if it’s that bad. Damage done in the next 28 years apparently won’t matter
The issue seems that going against this as a learned fellow gets you cancelled and no one really wants that. It just appears to be yet another form of bullying as with BLM and kneeling and wall to wall tarts football by tv channels. If your not with us your clearly the enemy and your opinion is not worth listening to.

You have good points. The solar panels currently and the grants are a joke. We could all have small turbines - they don't have to be expensive. We could use the power of our down pipes, sewers and gutters too. Particularly storm drains - yet nothing.
However, speak out about it, as you say, and get cancelled. I can tell you quite categorically that currently in academic circles your research has to be cutting edge woke - or you won't get funded. I've left academia as I just couldn't handle the arse licking and false research anymore. Actually, the final straw was Covid. I was asked to retrain without any pay, for a job I already did. So I'm a former intelligentsia, now dumb - I don't even bother as a sideline anymore. Although I do read the odd book.
I teach in the community now.

 


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Whatever the extent of climate change it only really matters what India, China and the US are doing.

The rest is just performative.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Aug 22 1.49pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Round we go again.

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W12 03 Aug 22 2.38pm

Another good summary:

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Originally posted by W12

Another good summary:

Andrew Tate is a mixed character for me.

What he says here is true as in the downgrade for the majority since the time of the boomers....the modern slave point - minus the previous freedoms all enacted by leaders who present themselves as bettering lives.

However, these points are well known on the dissident right and he's just repackaging them for normies looking for a masculine leader.

The problem with Tate is that he's someone who himself exploits for gain....so while I think he has muscular ideology for men, some of which I think is needed....he himself probably isn't the best figure to give it.

 


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W12 03 Aug 22 3.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Andrew Tate is a mixed character for me.

What he says here is true as in the downgrade for the majority since the time of the boomers....the modern slave point - minus the previous freedoms all enacted by leaders who present themselves as bettering lives.

However, these points are well known on the dissident right and he's just repackaging them for normies looking for a masculine leader.

The problem with Tate is that he's someone who himself exploits for gain....so while I think he has muscular ideology for men, some of which I think is needed....he himself probably isn't the best figure to give it.

I would generally agree with that. He just lays it out very well in this instance.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

So she could explain why the ice caps melted way before 200 years ago; 6 x in 600k years? She can explain why she won’t alter her stance as to why CO2 isn’t the main problem for ‘global warming’ but methane is. (28 x quicker over 100 years). She can explain why the worst case scenario is used; not a mean temperature rise of even the lowest it might be. I have said that I think we are contributing; my concern is the actual amount of impact.

Yes, she could explain all of those things. The contribution from natural variation is well understood and monitored. The various contributions from human activity is as well. That the press concentrates on one area, and not another, doesn't mean the scientists do. Unless you are one of those scientists, you are not qualified to make judgements. You say you have concerns. I know my old contact would completely allay those concerns. You seem convinced that this is all a devious plan by business and governments to exploit fear and gain control. I am 100% sure it isn't, because my contact convinced me.

Cynicism can sometimes be sensible, but it can also be dangerous.

 


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Originally posted by W12

I would generally agree with that. He just lays it out very well in this instance.

Agreed.


 


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