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Originally posted by ambrose7

His exact quotes were:

Patrick Vieira claims he has been made to feel uncomfortable in Warsaw and believes there is a "lack of education" in Poland.

The former Arsenal midfielder also thinks that Uefa have missed the boat for tackling racism at the tournament.

Vieira told ITV: "I have been here for two or three days now and I feel strange walking around this city (Warsaw).

“You can feel there is not so many black people around and people look at you strange. I feel there is a lack of education of this country."

It's not a case of being too white for his tastes, he's clearly talking about the way he is being treated by others. It is well known that there is a far right, racist element to some of the football hooligan groups out in Eastern Europe.

If you think what he has said there is an extreme view, certainly in light of the action that organisations such as UEFA have had to take in Poland against racism and a Panorama documentary at the time which showed the below, then you really don't know the meaning of the word.

"Panorama spent a month filming at matches in both the joint host nations and witnessed Nazi salutes from the terraces, black players being taunted with monkey chants, rampant anti-Semitism and a vicious assault on a group of Asian students."

In a statement, Uefa said: "Uefa Euro 2012 brings the spotlight on the host countries and clearly creates an opportunity to address and confront such societal issues.

So looking at Eastern Europe should mako people appreciate how tolerant Britain is and stop banging on about racism.

The problem with the idealist model is that people never just want to be just equal or accepted. At some point, they want power and ultimately, they want to be in charge. Even those who don't get co opted to serve someone else's agenda.

All these people who preach 'diversity' and promote White guilt will not be around to explain to the dwindling future Northern European generations as to how they became second class citizens and a minority in continents they once called their own.

Taking the knee was always political. Only the gullible convinced themselves that they weren't used as puppets. They really believed that it was all about good intentions.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Aug 2022 12.15pm)

 

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Originally posted by berlinpalace

Always entertaining to read the ‘opinions’ of a bunch of middle aged racists and I’m so not surprised to see the usual suspects all over this. Thanks guys, you never disappoint.

Berlinpalace is right - you lot bring shame to our club.

No better than the scum down the road.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So looking at Eastern Europe should mako people appreciate how tolerant Britain is and stop banging on about racism.

The problem with the idealist model is that people never just want to be just equal or accepted. At some point, they want power and ultimately, they want to be in charge. Even those who don't get co opted to serve someone else's agenda.

All these people who preach 'diversity' and promote White guilt will not be around to explain to the dwindling future Northern European generations as to how they became second class citizens and a minority in continents they once called their own.

Taking the knee was always political. Only the gullible convinced themselves that they weren't used as puppets. They really believed that it was all about good intentions.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Aug 2022 12.15pm)

"Hey Raheem, don't worry about that bloke calling you a monkey on social media or that racism as a % of arrests is rising in British stadiums (https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/sport/14022022-racism-arrests-rising-at-london-football-grounds-as-campaigners-call-for-action) because it could be worse, you could be getting your head kicked in over in Warsaw."

Further, the players took the knee for 5 seconds this week. You've spent multiple times more than that on here (and I imagine in person) complaining about it, and you reckon they're the ones banging on about racism!

The Premier League is a global product. Watched by a global audience. Making a global point that discrimination in any form isn't acceptable. No-one is promoting making white people second citizens. You are not under attack. The whole 'people never just want to be accepted' line is an opinion presented as a fact which is underpinning your entire prejudice.

There's nothing brave or insightful in any of the knee complaints on here. If you think there is, turn up at 1pm for the next game and tell Vieira, Guehi, Olise, Mateta etc. your views on why they should be grateful that Britain is tolerant as they go through the car park. Maybe then you'll learn something.

 


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Originally posted by dougster

Berlinpalace is right - you lot bring shame to our club.

No better than the scum down the road.

It appears you both have lazy debating skills. If you have a point to make about specific posts then make them. The casual comment , ‘you are a racist’, because you don’t like what someone posts is just an easy populist comment to make without any substance.

 

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Originally posted by ambrose7

"Hey Raheem, don't worry about that bloke calling you a monkey on social media or that racism as a % of arrests is rising in British stadiums (https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/sport/14022022-racism-arrests-rising-at-london-football-grounds-as-campaigners-call-for-action) because it could be worse, you could be getting your head kicked in over in Warsaw."

Further, the players took the knee for 5 seconds this week. You've spent multiple times more than that on here (and I imagine in person) complaining about it, and you reckon they're the ones banging on about racism!

The Premier League is a global product. Watched by a global audience. Making a global point that discrimination in any form isn't acceptable. No-one is promoting making white people second citizens. You are not under attack. The whole 'people never just want to be accepted' line is an opinion presented as a fact which is underpinning your entire prejudice.

There's nothing brave or insightful in any of the knee complaints on here. If you think there is, turn up at 1pm for the next game and tell Vieira, Guehi, Olise, Mateta etc. your views on why they should be grateful that Britain is tolerant as they go through the car park. Maybe then you'll learn something.

This is all completely insubstantial. There is nothing to argue with.

What happens when you have your zero racism?
What does that actually mean, and what will you want then?

Do you seriously think that a few idiots on the internet deserves the total overkill of anti racism campaigning in the sporting media?

Do you actually believe that it is all unbiased or sincere?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Aug 2022 4.36pm)

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

It appears you both have lazy debating skills. If you have a point to make about specific posts then make them. The casual comment , ‘you are a racist’, because you don’t like what someone posts is just an easy populist comment to make without any substance.

This is a debate? Ha, ha. Priceless. I think if they still want to take the knee it’s entirely up to them. Quite why Hralf and some of the others get quite so obsessed about it is just weird.

 

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Originally posted by dougster

Berlinpalace is right - you lot bring shame to our club.

No better than the scum down the road.

Go get a room with him.

Bunch of soy boys.

 


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Originally posted by berlinpalace

This is a debate? Ha, ha. Priceless. I think if they still want to take the knee it’s entirely up to them. Quite why Hralf and some of the others get quite so obsessed about it is just weird.

No, it’s a chat on a football website so try and make it interesting. The knee taking is a waste of everyone’s time, always has been. There are much more important things players could do to drive racism out of the game. Their actions as with your post is just a lightweight response.

 

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Originally posted by ambrose7

"Hey Raheem, don't worry about that bloke calling you a monkey on social media or that racism as a % of arrests is rising in British stadiums (https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/sport/14022022-racism-arrests-rising-at-london-football-grounds-as-campaigners-call-for-action) because it could be worse, you could be getting your head kicked in over in Warsaw."

Further, the players took the knee for 5 seconds this week. You've spent multiple times more than that on here (and I imagine in person) complaining about it, and you reckon they're the ones banging on about racism!

The Premier League is a global product. Watched by a global audience. Making a global point that discrimination in any form isn't acceptable. No-one is promoting making white people second citizens. You are not under attack. The whole 'people never just want to be accepted' line is an opinion presented as a fact which is underpinning your entire prejudice.

There's nothing brave or insightful in any of the knee complaints on here. If you think there is, turn up at 1pm for the next game and tell Vieira, Guehi, Olise, Mateta etc. your views on why they should be grateful that Britain is tolerant as they go through the car park. Maybe then you'll learn something.

Yeah correct don't worry about a random troll on social media that has however many billions of accounts, let's take saka for example, how many abusive tweets did he receive after the euros, 20 or something, then had a standing ovation by Tottenham fans in a preseason friendly and then a standing ovation at Brentford, so maybe abuse from 20 random trolls, standing ovation from 50k, it's only a big problem because tabloids and media obsess over it for cheap click bate.

 

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If the England team fails to take the knee at the World Cup then all this kneeling & hand wringing for Saint Floyd will have been for nothing.

As far as leftist movements go BLM has to be one of the worst & probably created more racists than it actually 'educated' away from it.

And please do not lecture me on how it was rebranded away from BLM - different slogan same rotten movement.
There was a time during lockdown the seats in Selhurst had BLM Tifos draped all over them.

The whole thing has been a disaster.


Edited by Ouzo Dan (08 Aug 2022 8.12pm)

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So the usual minority pundits on SKY Sports think that stopping the weekly taking of the knee is all wrong.

Once upon a time, we heard how Black footballers were so few and far between.
Then, when they achieved a massively disproportionate number in the top leagues, we heard about how they never got managers and coaching jobs, despite the numbers being roughly proportionate to the population.

Now we are hearing that they don't get to board level.

Can anyone see a pattern here?

Sky Sports News is spreading a purely anti White propaganda campaign.

It seems to want White people to step aside and hand over jobs and power to minorities. It's that simple.

They want to use White guilt to make us feel like we owe them something, when almost no one wanted vast numbers of immigrants here in the first place.
We are not allowed to favour our own, but we must just stand by and watch every
other race doing exactly that, with help from commercially interested and politically ambitious rich White people.


Oh, the irony.

All I can say is “wow”
Interesting to see how people think!

 

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On the point about lack of representation in the board room I don't see this a racist more like money related.

If a black person turned up at their local club with a sack load of money wanting to become a shareholder I would imagine they would welcome him with open arms.

So the question is why do black people not want to become directors and invest their money, maybe because they have better things to do with it.

 


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