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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 23 2.36pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Not a great afternoon in my local. There's only so many Flowers of Scotland you can put up with. Tries scored by the Scottish Highlanders - Huw Jones and Van Der Merwe. Local heroes. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 23 2.36pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not a great afternoon in my local. There's only so many Flowers of Scotland you can put up with.

Tries scored by the Scottish Highlanders - Huw Jones and Van Der Merwe. Local heroes.

Red and Blue Army!

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Teddy Eagle 05 Feb 23 2.46pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Tries scored by the Scottish Highlanders - Huw Jones and Van Der Merwe. Local heroes. Since there are only about 12 people who play the game in Scotland they have to beef the numbers up a bit and it costs too much to fly them in from New Zealand all the time.
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05 Feb 23 2.46pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Tries scored by the Scottish Highlanders - Huw Jones and Van Der Merwe. Local heroes.

Since there are only about 12 people who play the game in Scotland they have to beef the numbers up a bit and it costs too much to fly them in from New Zealand all the time.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 23 3.17pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Since there are only about 12 people who play the game in Scotland they have to beef the numbers up a bit and it costs too much to fly them in from New Zealand all the time. I don't blame any particular team in rugby but it's quite astonishing at the levels it is currently. Ireland had a team fielding seven foreign players in the first fifteen a couple of years ago. It's still a third of the team - they don't have Irish relatives either. I guess everyone learnt it from New Zealand. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 23 3.17pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Since there are only about 12 people who play the game in Scotland they have to beef the numbers up a bit and it costs too much to fly them in from New Zealand all the time.

I don't blame any particular team in rugby but it's quite astonishing at the levels it is currently. Ireland had a team fielding seven foreign players in the first fifteen a couple of years ago. It's still a third of the team - they don't have Irish relatives either. I guess everyone learnt it from New Zealand.

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Teddy Eagle 05 Feb 23 3.38pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I don't blame any particular team in rugby but it's quite astonishing at the levels it is currently. Ireland had a team fielding seven foreign players in the first fifteen a couple of years ago. It's still a third of the team - they don't have Irish relatives either. I guess everyone learnt it from New Zealand. Yep. The Pacific Islands All stars.
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05 Feb 23 3.38pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Yep. The Pacific Islands All stars.

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JRW2 Dulwich 05 Feb 23 3.57pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Yep. The Pacific Islands All stars. Hold on - what about England? Tuilagi (Samoa), Cokanasiga (Fiji), the Vunipola brothers (born in Australia and NZ to Tongan parents), Marcus Smith (Philippines), Rokoduguni (Fiji).
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Dulwich 05 Feb 23 3.57pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Yep. The Pacific Islands All stars.

Hold on - what about England?

Tuilagi (Samoa), Cokanasiga (Fiji), the Vunipola brothers (born in Australia and NZ to Tongan parents), Marcus Smith (Philippines), Rokoduguni (Fiji).

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 23 4.10pm
Originally posted by JRW2 Hold on - what about England? Tuilagi (Samoa), Cokanasiga (Fiji), the Vunipola brothers (born in Australia and NZ to Tongan parents), Marcus Smith (Philippines), Rokoduguni (Fiji). True - but I do believe most actually have an English parent. That's totally different to merely naturalising them. The Vunipola's were actually brought over by Wales and then decided on England - quite hilariously. In all fairness, we did also say all teams do it now. In my own opinion, parent (grandparent not sure) fair enough. Three years in a country (now five) a bit silly. I'm not an expert on it, just off the top of my head. I can say with some certainty that Ireland looked where they felt they were weak and then brought players over - a bit of a piss take in my opinion, and also changed World Rugby's rules - so in their opinion too. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 23 4.10pm

Originally posted by JRW2

Hold on - what about England?

Tuilagi (Samoa), Cokanasiga (Fiji), the Vunipola brothers (born in Australia and NZ to Tongan parents), Marcus Smith (Philippines), Rokoduguni (Fiji).

True - but I do believe most actually have an English parent. That's totally different to merely naturalising them. The Vunipola's were actually brought over by Wales and then decided on England - quite hilariously.
In all fairness, we did also say all teams do it now. In my own opinion, parent (grandparent not sure) fair enough. Three years in a country (now five) a bit silly.
I'm not an expert on it, just off the top of my head. I can say with some certainty that Ireland looked where they felt they were weak and then brought players over - a bit of a piss take in my opinion, and also changed World Rugby's rules - so in their opinion too.

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nickyf 05 Feb 23 9.16pm
I was going to start a thread about this subject, two games yesterday two try scorers James Lowe and van der merwe both playing for national teams due to 3 years residency rules, can't see northern hemisphere players being good enough to get into any of the the southern hemisphere teams so it's only benefiting the northern hemisphere teams, rules are too relax and before long the six nations will be like watching the southern hemisphere reserve teams with a few locals who are just about good enough to get picked for there country of birth.
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nickyf 05 Feb 23 9.16pm

I was going to start a thread about this subject, two games yesterday two try scorers James Lowe and van der merwe both playing for national teams due to 3 years residency rules, can't see northern hemisphere players being good enough to get into any of the the southern hemisphere teams so it's only benefiting the northern hemisphere teams, rules are too relax and before long the six nations will be like watching the southern hemisphere reserve teams with a few locals who are just about good enough to get picked for there country of birth.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Feb 23 12.23pm
Originally posted by nickyf I was going to start a thread about this subject, two games yesterday two try scorers James Lowe and van der merwe both playing for national teams due to 3 years residency rules, can't see northern hemisphere players being good enough to get into any of the the southern hemisphere teams so it's only benefiting the northern hemisphere teams, rules are too relax and before long the six nations will be like watching the southern hemisphere reserve teams with a few locals who are just about good enough to get picked for there country of birth. They just changed the residency rules to five years, mainly due to the Ireland situation. But obviously all have done it to some extent. The rule was three years previously. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Feb 23 12.23pm

Originally posted by nickyf

They just changed the residency rules to five years, mainly due to the Ireland situation. But obviously all have done it to some extent. The rule was three years previously.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Mar 23 4.54pm
I'm thinking Borthwick needs a bit of time. England pretty poor at the moment. Not sure what players they could bring in. Ireland likely to win Grand Slam. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Mar 23 4.54pm

I'm thinking Borthwick needs a bit of time. England pretty poor at the moment. Not sure what players they could bring in.
Ireland likely to win Grand Slam.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Aug 23 5.02pm
England the worst I can remember. A laughing stock. Total rebuild required and Borthwick is getting nowhere. I would be chasing O'Gara with a golden cheque book. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Aug 23 5.02pm

England the worst I can remember. A laughing stock. Total rebuild required and Borthwick is getting nowhere. I would be chasing O'Gara with a golden cheque book.

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 26 Aug 23 8.34pm
They were dreadful today, although a lot of key players missing. Can't see Borthwick still being around this time next year. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Midhurst 26 Aug 23 8.34pm