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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 25 Aug 22 10.03am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Clyne for me, extra pace, but there is not a lot to choose, for me AWB is a massive improvement on both, especially if we are going to play WBs sometimes.

When i've watched Man U AWB is a lot more comfortable in a back 4. When he's played RWB he has been all over the place. I thought his forward play would improve at Man U - more opportunity, an ex winger etc, but i don't think it has.

Really surprised some people think AWB will improve our back 5. In a back 4 IMHO he is better than both NC and JW but i'd rather we focussed on a midfielder ATM

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 25 Aug 22 10.03am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

It depends on who we are playing and what formation.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 22 10.13am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

When i've watched Man U AWB is a lot more comfortable in a back 4. When he's played RWB he has been all over the place. I thought his forward play would improve at Man U - more opportunity, an ex winger etc, but i don't think it has.

Really surprised some people think AWB will improve our back 5. In a back 4 IMHO he is better than both NC and JW but i'd rather we focussed on a midfielder ATM

He was not impressive as a winger, hence was moved to a right-back berth.
He is a very capable 1 v 1 defender and makes good recovery runs on a counter-attack but has never been the best coming forward.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 Aug 22 10.35am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

He was not impressive as a winger, hence was moved to a right-back berth.
He is a very capable 1 v 1 defender and makes good recovery runs on a counter-attack but has never been the best coming forward.

I would humbly suggest that if AWB were to play with Olise down the right, he wouldn't have to be.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 22 10.48am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91


I would humbly suggest that if AWB were to play with Olise down the right, he wouldn't have to be.

I understand your thinking, however Olise does have a proclivity to cut inside on to his favoured left-foot and an overlapping attacking full-back could bring a different dimension to our play.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 Aug 22 10.51am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I understand your thinking, however Olise does have a proclivity to cut inside on to his favoured left-foot and an overlapping attacking full-back could bring a different dimension to our play.

Oh yes I don't deny that. My thinking would be however until we are a 'top 8' team any flying full back may start to then receive flak for a lack of defensive quality. Kyle Walker, TAA, Dani Alves, etc etc all got that as stars who've won many an accolade.

Could just be down to subjective preference of course,

 


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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 25 Aug 22 1.37pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

He was not impressive as a winger, hence was moved to a right-back berth.
He is a very capable 1 v 1 defender and makes good recovery runs on a counter-attack but has never been the best coming forward.

that's why i said ex winger. However, clearly having played from the ages of say 8 to 18 further up the pitch this should be of value e.g. he should be able to put over a decent first time cross. Unfortunately this part of his game doesn't appear to have improved

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Aug 22 1.49pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Back to the OP's topic and quite frankly, I'm glad we've got both of them. They hardly cost us anything (relatively speaking in PL terms) and both are competent if not top rate PL players.

IMO Ward is the better defender and Clyne the better offensive player, so it would be horses for courses for me depending on the opposition and how PV wants to set the team up.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Aug 22 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

that's why i said ex winger. However, clearly having played from the ages of say 8 to 18 further up the pitch this should be of value e.g. he should be able to put over a decent first time cross. Unfortunately this part of his game doesn't appear to have improved

He hasn't been the best offensively and I had heard a couple of years ago that Man Utd were working on this aspect of his game.
I have heard people assert that he needs more quality on the ball,needs to improve going forward and needs to work on his final ball into the box.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 25 Aug 22 7.17pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Villa was Ward's best game in a very very very long time. Generally I much prefer Clyne, but Ward has the Jersey on merit if only judging match day showings

 


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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 26 Aug 22 3.36am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

As much as I like and respect Ward, Clyne any day for me. His passing and speed miles above JW.

 

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View Oddball2021's Profile Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 26 Aug 22 9.40am Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

As much as I like and respect Ward, Clyne any day for me. His passing and speed miles above JW.

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