I think what is too far right is an interesting and valid question just as it is on the left.

The left will always try to reduce that window so that essentially anyone on the right who believes in social conservatism is essentially a Hitler supporter....it isn't an honest or very bright approach but it's worked for them....and that's all they care about. Unfortunately the Tories adapted to this by throwing away social conservatism for social/neo liberalism.

For me the excesses of the right or left can be circumvented by a commitment to certain core beliefs. First among them would be a commitment to free speech. Second to that would be a restraint on political persecution by the state and its proxies....neoliberalism is failing on both these fronts.

Essentially I suppose I'm arguing for social conservatism without the overt authoritarianism.

Of course on the wider scale, as in what's happening in Europe right now none of us get an influence. The rise of the right won't be down to a sudden desire to reject neoliberalism so much as a reflection of the disastrous political and economic choices that globalist minded governments have took over covid, Ukraine and the immigration/crime rate. Even their control of the media can't save them from the ballot box.

What forms the right will take in individual countries will reflect the nature of the right wing there......so in Sweden half of the right is pretty tame whereas in Italy most of the right actually have some balls.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Sep 2022 2.14pm)

Essentially my stance (BOLD).

Agree completely with first paragraph, in fact most if not all of it, and essentially, without giving the expected examples, 'too far right' for me would constitute an extreme version of a more socially conservative government as we have witnessed in various sectors of the globe historically. I think it noticeable to say my raising concerns about the far right felt necessary for being labelled as such purely for criticism of the left.

As it stands, I believe it when I say things have swung too far left and that has led to far too much 'nonsense' in my eyes and I see any 'right' taking an equidistant stance from the center as being just as disastrous. I believe both to be either side of the same coin in terms of their motivation for taking a more extreme stance but also in their capability to cause mayhem.

My political position could arguably slightly right of center but occasionally slightly left too, depends on what makes most sense to me. For me, those who tie themselves rigidly into a political identity often do so as they are unhappy in themselves and want to change the world around them as opposed to looking to improve self. They just lack the metal or cognitive capability to do so. That for me sums up the left quite accurately these days.

That's Bertrand Russell.

Gosh! So you've volunteered to not have it capped by the Conservative government. I admire such a principled stand.

It could be better actually, since the cost which they are trying to hide, I've seen estimates between £150 - 200 millions paid for by taxation or future bills.

It's a fossil fuel ransom payment.

'There's no such thing as a free lunch'.