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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 02 Oct 22 6.14pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Hmmm. Maybe I have been too harsh on Roy. Perhaps this is why he left making substitutions so late. I agree that PV doesn't have that many options off the bench.

We were set up to defend under Roy which is less tiring than playing football . Maybe PV feels he needs to respond when the other side brings on 3 internationals in one go . Roy just took it as a complement .

 


And we still need a striker

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 02 Oct 22 7.06pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Hmmm. Maybe I have been too harsh on Roy. Perhaps this is why he left making substitutions so late. I agree that PV doesn't have that many options off the bench.

But he has options not to take players off!

 

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View andyeagles's Profile andyeagles Flag croydon 03 Oct 22 9.02am Send a Private Message to andyeagles Add andyeagles as a friend

right.... ive done some research and last season we conceded 9 goals in the last 5 minutes of games (majority in 90+ mins)..... this costed us 12 points which would have put us on 60 points in 6th place and a place in europe.......


this season we already conceded 3 goals in the last 5 mins which has already costed us 3 points

ill take a bet now that will drop more points this season than last in the final 5 mins


 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Oct 22 9.40am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by andyeagles

right.... ive done some research and last season we conceded 9 goals in the last 5 minutes of games (majority in 90+ mins)..... this costed us 12 points which would have put us on 60 points in 6th place and a place in europe.......


this season we already conceded 3 goals in the last 5 mins which has already costed us 3 points

ill take a bet now that will drop more points this season than last in the final 5 mins


Firstly, well done and thank you Andy. Very sincerely.

Secondly, assuming you are correct, 'OH F**KING HELLL!!!!'

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 03 Oct 22 9.44am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

With his subs Vieira simply invites pressure. It was written though, that Conor G. would score the winner.
Another sickening blow after Clyne was carried off after tangling with a player that should not have been on the pitch.

I do think PV's tactics are not helping. Always 3 late subs that totally loses any momentum we might have. Even in the win against Villa he did the same and in the last 15 minutes we seemed a bit disjointed, despite Villa being there for a pasting.

Having said that the players must take some responsibility. PV wants us playing more possession football yet at times we fail to do the basics and just give the opposition the ball, which of course invites pressure.

Chelsea's 1st goal really annoyed me. They bring their big centre half up and stand him on Clyne, our smallest defender. Pretty obvious what would happen. Could say Ward not have switched positions when he saw what was happening? In a match things happen and players need to adjust and react. This doesn't seem to happen anymore

Edited by palace99 (03 Oct 2022 9.45am)

 

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View andyeagles's Profile andyeagles Flag croydon 03 Oct 22 9.57am Send a Private Message to andyeagles Add andyeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Firstly, well done and thank you Andy. Very sincerely.

Secondly, assuming you are correct, 'OH F**KING HELLL!!!!'

i may have told 1 white lie, the everton game when we were 2.0 up and they won 3.2 in the 85th min. i put that down as 3 points lost.... other than that.... its all correct

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 03 Oct 22 12.36pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

We were set up to defend under Roy which is less tiring than playing football . Maybe PV feels he needs to respond when the other side brings on 3 internationals in one go . Roy just took it as a complement .


That is not true.

You should train to gain fitness for the level and typical of football you are playing.

This has been an issue with Palace for a long time something is not right with the fitness.

A clear example is look at other teams not the big ones who have players which are not at Palace quality level but the work rate is a lot higher.

The other issue is poor tactics/subs or lack off.

 


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View Lawrie's Profile Lawrie Online Flag Brooks Green (near Horsham) 03 Oct 22 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Lawrie Add Lawrie as a friend

This is not just a recent thing. It’s part of the Palace thing.
I remember after one of our relegations in the past, someone who really should get out more, calculated that if games that season had only lasted 80 minutes we’d have finished mid table. So many were the goals conceded in the last ten minutes of games.

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 03 Oct 22 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


That is not true.

You should train to gain fitness for the level and typical of football you are playing.

This has been an issue with Palace for a long time something is not right with the fitness.

A clear example is look at other teams not the big ones who have players which are not at Palace quality level but the work rate is a lot higher.

The other issue is poor tactics/subs or lack off

It's not a lack of fitness. Palace are a fit team. It's purely down to strength and depth of squad.
Look at what Chelsea can throw on the field off the bench.
Most of them would walk straight into a Palace 11 every week.

Viera switched around what he could but it's a very different looking bench compared to the top 6 teams in the country!

Hughes, Tomkins, Mateta and Schlupp can all play football but they are not Mount, Gallagher, Pulisic, Loftus-Cheek or potentially Broja.
We also had Riedewald, Luca, Ebioei, Gordon & Johnstone.
Chelsea still had Bettinelli, Azpilicueta, Chalobah and Koulialy bench-warming!
Palace just don't have the financial clout to be able to afford to have game changing players sitting on the bench they play from the start!

However when you compare Palace's efforts against Chelsea on Saturday to the W*nkers pathetic effort yesterday against City there is no absolutely no comparison given the clubs budgets involved!!!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Oct 22 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


No idea if this is true or just an impression but we also seem to concede close to half time which, if correct, indicates a lack of concentration which could be linked to general fitness.

 

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