This 100%

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Feeling the same. Looking forward very much to Boxing Day and the ongoing season.
COYP.
I think if we qualify for the next WC in North America it happens at the end of the season so feels like the treat it should be.

Awful referee, awful substitutions, awful draw for us of course. Had we won this I’d of fancied us to do the unthinkable and win the WC.

However, I could have written that script. Of all the teams left I did think we were the strongest. I would have said France before todays game but we were the better side.

Southgate has done well in creating a positive culture for the players however that is not enough, you need a winning culture.

This England team is nowhere near as bad but has the same weak mentality and gutlessness we’ve all become so used to. Id quite confidently assert it’s the best England team I’ve ever seen and possibly the best team in the world. We’ve seen the likes of Germany, Spain, Portugal and even Brazil fall due to poor mentality and of course we have now gone to as we always do. France have a superior attitude and belief.

Not saying this out of anger etc. but I genuinely don’t care that much, far less than I used to certainly. May be timing of wc, may be just getting older or anything else but I consider myself an England ‘fan’ however it’s not anywhere remotely close to my feelings for Palace. As mentioned on another thread I have a sum total of four eagles tattooed on me, no lions however. Roll on Boxing Day and good luck Croatia (my sweepstake team).

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

How must Harry Kane be feeling it's very cruel and the penalty miss lost the game.

After all he has done and now tied England's top scorer.

Harry Kane has scored 58 penalties and missed 11.
The last penalty he missed before tonight was in October this year in the Champions League against Eintracht Frankfurt.
However he did score a penalty in that game.

Edited by Willo (10 Dec 2022 11.09pm)

To win big tournaments you need decisions to go in your favour.

For as much as England will get trolled for missing the pen in the second half it doesn't negate the fact the first French goal shouldn't have stood, nor the very first penalty decision which wasn't even looked at by VAR.

Add in Hernandez could have walked so we can feel legitimately cheesed off with an incompetent refereeing performance that disproportionately favoured the French.

To have that a day after Lahoz ruined the Netherland-Argie game really spoils the World Cup as a spectacle.

Humbug!