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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 27 Dec 22 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

Yes they do,Fulham had two USA players in their side who England struggled against.Four others who went to the World Cup to our two, so our squad is not superior and yes they have all of the attributes you have listed as well.I get fed up with so called experts bigging up our squad when half of them are only Championship standard.!!

Could not agree more!

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 27 Dec 22 4.52pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

Perhaps it is just "corporate speak" whereby the man at the top talks things up even if underneath it he is fully aware of the deficiencies. I hope that is the case.



The man at the top was very unhappy yesterday - obvious for all to see.
Me thinks that PV will be having his bottom spanked today

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 27 Dec 22 4.58pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

'Bah Humbug' on Christmas Day and nostrils flaring like an angry bullock on Boxing Day.

And there was me thinking you were an old bull with so much wisdom.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 22 5.00pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

And there was me thinking you were an old bull with so much wisdom.

Many would opine that I am full of old bull and short of wisdom.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Dec 22 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin



The man at the top was very unhappy yesterday - obvious for all to see.
Me thinks that PV will be having his bottom spanked today

If SP's argument is that the manager should have played Hughes, Luka, Riedewald, Ward, Edouard etc then I think PV will have plenty of ammunition to give back.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Dec 22 5.38pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Any prospective manager asking about the rebuild and future of the club will get the response that there is a certain budget for the right type of player and hopes rest on the academy augmented by assiduous loans. PV must of thought about it as a project that could enhance his cv and one that he was equipped to take on, given his experience and the managers he had played under. Of course, the proof is in the pudding and as PV has discovered there isn't much in the transfer kitty, the academy isn't yet producing PL calibre players, and loans are the extent of Parish's thought process. It can't end well. We've been treading water for so long now.

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 27 Dec 22 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

You can always bank on Palace to ruin your Christmas and yesterday they delivered it in bucket loads. That was about as disappointing as I can remember from a Palace team, you would have thought 6 weeks without playing competitively in the Premiership we would have been flying out of the traps. But no, we lacked in every department.

I want to praise Fulham for their win, but I can’t we were that bad….

 

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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 27 Dec 22 6.20pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

The comments about needing to use Luka or Hughes only serve to underline how weak the squad is.

Interesting that Vieira didn't follow his initial instinct to use Ward at centre back as he did against Man Utd at the end of last season. Perhaps Tomkins selected to nullify Mitrovic's aerial threat.

The thing is, presumably they've had weeks to prepare for this fixture. They've known Guéhi was out since November 12th, yet Tomkins looked like a player who's barely kicked a ball in years.

We just don't have depth. I agree about Luka & Hughes too. There simply isn't a selection which would have made a significant difference.

 

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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 27 Dec 22 7.22pm Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

Yes they do,Fulham had two USA players in their side who England struggled against.Four others who went to the World Cup to our two, so our squad is not superior and yes they have all of the attributes you have listed as well.I get fed up with so called experts bigging up our squad when half of them are only Championship standard.!!

Agree completely.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 27 Dec 22 8.22pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

Yes they do,Fulham had two USA players in their side who England struggled against.Four others who went to the World Cup to our two, so our squad is not superior and yes they have all of the attributes you have listed as well.I get fed up with so called experts bigging up our squad when half of them are only Championship standard.!!

Utter Hogwash, the difference is one manager knows how to get the best of what he has, and one dosent

 


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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Dec 22 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Qwijibo

The thing is, presumably they've had weeks to prepare for this fixture. They've known Guéhi was out since November 12th, yet Tomkins looked like a player who's barely kicked a ball in years.

We just don't have depth. I agree about Luka & Hughes too. There simply isn't a selection which would have made a significant difference.

He was terrible. Looked as though he could barely run beyond three quarter pace. I felt really bad for him as he's been great for us.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 27 Dec 22 9.07pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by nead1

My view is that the problem was primarily back 4 related; Clyne was poor and got taken off, Andersen was responsible for the fist goal and couldn't get into the game, Tomkins was clearly targeted and looked uncomfortable throughout, Mitchell - nothing that can usefully be added.

That said, I do think it was a one off and predict Palace will win the return fixture in 23 and there will be a big reaction against Bournemouth.

But it wasn’t a once off. We have played that bad in your last game against Forest with pretty much the exact same line up (Tomkins for Guehi). And we have other games this season where we have been shocking.

PV has to take complete responsibility for that performance because every single player was awful which says it was his tactics.

 

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