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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 02 Feb 23 6.11am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Its going to be an interesting end to the season that’s for sure. We’ve got a bit of buffer, it should be enough but quite a few of these teams have been strengthened, or have underperformed so far.

The teams below us and the points they need to catch us:

Palace
Forest 3
Leicester 6
Leeds 6
WHU 6
Wolves 7
Bournemouth 7
Everton 9
Southampton 9

You’d expect WHU to perform better than they have done so far. And you’d expect Dyche to give Everton a bump. Can these new players help these teams make up the deficit? I don’t think all will catch us, some a few certainly will.

Forest
Danilo (Palmeiras, £18m)
Felipe (Atletico Madrid, £2m)
Jonjo Shelvey (Newcastle United, undisclosed)
Keylor Navas (Paris Saint-Germain, loan)
Gustavo Scarpa (Palmeiras, free)
Chris Wood (Newcastle United, loan)

Leicester
Victor Kristiansen (Copenhagen, £17m)
Harry Souttar (Stoke City, £15m)
Nathan Opoku (Syracuse University, undisclosed)
Mateus Tete (Shakhtar Donetsk, loan

Leeds
Georginio Rutter (Hoffenheim, £36m)
Max Wober (Red Bull Salzburg, £14m)
Weston McKennie (Juventus, loan)
Diogo Monteiro (Servette, undisclosed)

WH
Danny Ings (Aston Villa, £12m)
Luizao (Sao Paulo, undisclosed)
Jude Soonsup-Bell (Tottenham, free)

Wolves
Joao Gomes (Flamengo, £15m)
Mario Lemina (Nice, £9m)
Pablo Sarabia (Paris Saint-Germain, £4.4m)
Craig Dawson (West Ham United, £3.3m)
Daniel Bentley (Bristol City, free)
Matheus Cunha (Atletico Madrid, loan)

Bornmouth
Dango Ouattara (Lorient, £20m)
Antoine Semenyo (Bristol City, £10.5m)
Darren Randolph (West Ham, free)
Matias Vina (Roma, £800,000 loan)
Illia Zabarnyi (Dynamo Kiev, loan)
Hamed Traore (Sassuolo, loan)

Southampton
Kamaldeen Sulemana (Rennes, £22m)
Paul Onuachu (Genk, £18.5m)
Carlos Alcaraz (Racing Club, £12.3m)
Mislav Orsic (Dinamo Zagreb, £6m)
James Bree (Luton, £750k)

This just makes me think we are bang in trouble...

 


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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 02 Feb 23 7.26am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

This just makes me think we are bang in trouble...

Really? I think it reflects mid season panic on behalf of the teams listed, a number of unknown quantities and bottom of the barrel cheapo signings in the hope that one or two will come good.
I think we're waiting on a few of the academy players to break through and will see them introduced as the season develops. Otherwise what is the point of the academy if the the youngsters there see others jump the queue. I am aware of the ruling that all PL will have to have an academy, but nevertheless...

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 02 Feb 23 8.23am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Really? I think it reflects mid season panic on behalf of the teams listed, a number of unknown quantities and bottom of the barrel cheapo signings in the hope that one or two will come good.
I think we're waiting on a few of the academy players to break through and will see them introduced as the season develops. Otherwise what is the point of the academy if the the youngsters there see others jump the queue. I am aware of the ruling that all PL will have to have an academy, but nevertheless...

Exactly this. Well said. Why are so many supporters impressed by a team that spends money, paying no attention to what it's actually been spent on? Would you be happy if your wife went shopping and came home with bags full of questionable dross, simply because the sheer volume of dross impressed the neighbours for the next five minutes?

These are desperation signings; relegation-threatened teams flinging out cash in any direction because they're bang in trouble and need to get bodies over the line. The strategy appears to be "we know the players we've got aren't good enough, so what do we have to lose? This lot can't be any worse".

A lot of no-mark names from marginal teams bigged up by hyper-inflated press releases that fans swallow lock, stock, and barrel. If these players really had serious potential or a background of achievement, do you think they'd be going to Bournemouth, Wolves, or Southampton?

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 02 Feb 23 10.57am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Personally I think there is a real mix of decent signing and panic buys.

Forest have signed a good mix of experience in Felipe and Navas, a couple that know the league Wood and Shelvey and Danilo, who looks very exciting. Bit If I was a Forest fan, that's a really solid window.

Southampton on the other hand, reeks of desperation.

Bournemouth have a few interesting additions, but untried at this level/league. they need these guys to hit the ground running and perform.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 02 Feb 23 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I appreciate that clubs have achieved instant promotion, Norwich,Burnley etc however Nottm Forest spent 23 seasons in the lower divisions before returning to the top flight, Leeds 16 seasons before their last promotion to the PL.

and some in league one are still trying to get back to where they were, for example: Bolton,Derby,Charlton,Ipswich,Sheff Wed and even poor old Pompey! as you say no guarantee that we would come back anytime soon and it may even go down further!

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Feb 23 12.38pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Personally I think there is a real mix of decent signing and panic buys.

Forest have signed a good mix of experience in Felipe and Navas, a couple that know the league Wood and Shelvey and Danilo, who looks very exciting. Bit If I was a Forest fan, that's a really solid window.

Southampton on the other hand, reeks of desperation.

Bournemouth have a few interesting additions, but untried at this level/league. they need these guys to hit the ground running and perform.

At least they signed a striker, Paul Onuachu who has scored 16 goals in the Belgian League for Genk this season and in the previous 2 seasons scored 54 goals for the club.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Feb 23 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

and some in league one are still trying to get back to where they were, for example: Bolton,Derby,Charlton,Ipswich,Sheff Wed and even poor old Pompey! as you say no guarantee that we would come back anytime soon and it may even go down further!

I noticed the Pompey fans were protesting their billionaire owner Michael Eisner who they claim hasn't put any money into the club or not enough. He was seen as their saviour!

Meanwhile Charlton fans are getting all excited that they are about to be taken over by not 1 not 2 but 3 American billionaires. Whether this is true remains to be seen but even if it is it doesn't mean they will spend or have the best interests of the fans at heart.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Feb 2023 1.02pm)

 


One more point

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Feb 23 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I noticed the Pompey fans were protesting their billionaire owner Michael Eisner who they claim hasn't put any money into the club or not enough. He was seen as their saviour!

Meanwhile Charlton fans are getting all excited that they are about to be taken over by not 1 not 2 but 3 American billionaires. Whether this is true remains to be seen but even if it is it doesn't mean they will spend or have the best interests of the fans at heart.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Feb 2023 1.02pm)

When Michael Eisner bought the club he said ""We will invest as needed, not invest like crazy.".

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Feb 23 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

When Michael Eisner bought the club he said ""We will invest as needed, not invest like crazy.".

Did he also say "Come to Disneyland... and bring money"?

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Feb 23 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

When Michael Eisner bought the club he said ""We will invest as needed, not invest like crazy.".

I think Pompey fans thought the days of slim pickings were over.

 


One more point

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 23 2.43pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I think Pompey fans thought the days of slim pickings were over.


Dredged up a name from the past - good ol' Slim Pickens ex rodeo rider turned actor. Not a name you'd miss when the film credits rolled.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 02 Feb 23 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

These are desperation signings; relegation-threatened teams flinging out cash in any direction because they're bang in trouble and need to get bodies over the line. The strategy appears to be "we know the players we've got aren't good enough, so what do we have to lose? This lot can't be any worse".

Didn't we start that trend when we got promoted?

 

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