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View CpfcWeTrust1's Profile CpfcWeTrust1 Flag 19 Mar 23 4.38pm Send a Private Message to CpfcWeTrust1 Add CpfcWeTrust1 as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Today was a total cock up yes, but our forwards have been absolutely and totally pathetic all season and they've completely drained everyone's confidence and all we have left is frustration, changing the manager was not necessary, the question is how have we ended up with strikers who are nowhere near good enough and defenders who now should be playing in league one.

PV had no hope of achieving success.

True about the forwards....but you can't score if the team can't actually pass, nor move faster than a Slough or have such substandard link up play.

Nor the lack of possession or creativity. These are all things that can be trained and worked on.

Vieira, in my opinion, has been awful, and it's been papered over by how good Gallagher was for us last season. I'm not happy that Vieira hasn't worked out, I really hoped he would be something incredible but I don't think his backroom staff are anywhere near the calibre needed.

Why Eboiwei, Plange and Butland were loaned out is beyond questionable. Eboiwei and Plange were both pretty damn good in the Championship and Plange can't be worse than Edouard or Mateta.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 19 Mar 23 4.41pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Hodgson spent 73m euros over his period of time, and received 78m euros income transfer money, so +5m euros, vieira has spent 131m euros in two seasons and received 5.2m euros transfer income, a loss of -126m euros, it is all on Transfermkt if anyone wants to look

The point here is that the money spent under Vieira was necessary after the run down of the Hodgson team. Whoever took the job after Hodgson would have had the money spent on, because the team was depleted.
What one can ask is, "Was the money spent wisely?" As we know, Freedman does the scouting and Parish signs the cheques, so the choice of player or the amount spent had little to do with Vieira.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (19 Mar 2023 4.51pm)

 

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PalaceDevon Flag 19 Mar 23 4.43pm

well thanks guys for all your comments and friendship over the 50 years I have supported Palace.

I will still continue to support the team but I am not going to be on Holmesdale to receive comments about my comments

thanks goodbye and thanks for all the fish

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 19 Mar 23 4.43pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

He might be our best player by a distance but Wilf has had a poor season so far. 6 goals and 2 assists is way below his stats for the past 2 seasons. Despite that he’s the first name in the team sheet in the hope he might just produce a moment of magic. He had a mixed day today, hitting the post but losing the ball and giving up chasing it for the first goal. If he goes to a better team next season I suspect he’ll be used as an impact substitute. Definitely won’t get the game time he does at Palace. Here’s hoping he’s saved his best form for the run in before he heads to pastures new.

I get what you're saying but pretty much all of our attacking play came out of Wilf bullying and beating Arsenal's defenders. He was guilty of poor defending and switching off, but without him we'd have had nothing going forward.

Defensively today was far removed from how solid we were under Vieira. It was scary how bad we were at the back after how well we contained City. There was no sign of players looking happy to be free of Vieira. That's not Paddy's fault, it just says to me that the players were perhaps not on board with the decision. Players were looking at the ground, being unfocused, not chasing back, being out of position.

On the positive side we got a scrappy goal and had some shots. I think we just need to put this behind us and Parish has to make a decision on the next boss within a few days, whether that be backing Paddy or getting someone else.

 

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PalaceDevon Flag 19 Mar 23 4.43pm

well thanks guys for all your comments and friendship over the 50 years I have supported Palace.

I will still continue to support the team but I am not going to be on Holmesdale to receive comments about my comments

thanks goodbye and thanks for all the fish

 

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View speediej's Profile speediej Flag Northampton 19 Mar 23 4.44pm Send a Private Message to speediej Add speediej as a friend

Despite the score being 4-1, I actually thought we didn't play bad. Arsenal are just a very good side. We had 4 shots on target which after the last few weeks is progress.

Zaha at fault for the first two goals, pure laziness.

Play like that v Leicester and we will get 3 points.

 


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View Plaistow Eagle's Profile Plaistow Eagle Flag 19 Mar 23 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Today was a total cock up yes, but our forwards have been absolutely and totally pathetic all season and they've completely drained everyone's confidence and all we have left is frustration, changing the manager was not necessary, the question is how have we ended up with strikers who are nowhere near good enough and defenders who now should be playing in league one.

PV had no hope of achieving success.

Yep fair summary and the answer to your question is SP, DF and the board..!!

As I've said on here on another thread SP likes to be seen/known as the "Big Kahuna", covets the "Big Chair" and remunerates himself accordingly to the point he's the 3rd highest paid Director in the Premier League..!!

Over to you SP - your decisions have led us to where we are right now - now can you prove your worth and get us out of it..??

Forget saving us in 2010 - that's gone, done and dusted - right here and now is what will define you..!!

So aside from all the "egotistical" self promotion can you actually do the job - that you pay yourself so fabulously well to do - and get us out of this..??

Based upon track history I suspect not -but hope SP proves me wrong..!!

Time will tell..!!

COYP

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 19 Mar 23 4.50pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Oh please really..!!

These are bloody professional football players and paid huge salaries for doing it - this ain't Kindergarten..!!

Look - we've all played with knocks/feeling under the weather you just get on with it - goes with the territory..!!

As for Ahamada - we just paid £10.5M for him - that was in January - this is now March if he ain't ready to start now - when will he be bloody ready to start..??

Never heard so much mamby/pamby nonsense..!!


So you have competed at the highest level have you and you was sick at the time

NO

Be quiet money has nothing to do with it.

Ahamada has played how many minutes in prem at senior level as of today 85min and you think its fine to just drop him in again currently the best team in this country under a temp manager.

You have no clue jog on to the pub.


Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

The point here is that the money spent under Vieira was necessary after the run down of the Hodgson team. Whoever took the job after Hodgson would have had the money spent on, because the team was depleted.
What one can ask is, "Was the money spent wisely?" As we know, Freedman does the scouting and Parish signs the cheques, so the choice of player or the amount spent had little to do with Vieira.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (19 Mar 2023 4.51pm)


If the chairman had wanted to he could have refused to spend the money but he backed the new manager. (this was not profit money from sales etc)

Those players was PV signings did he get every one he wanted no.

People are making excuses one minutes its no backing next well manager didnt select the players.

You have said about run down Hodgson yet look at the players still at the club who was around then and start

Zaha
Ayew
Schlupp
Ward/Clyne
Mitchell
Guaita

Roy for many seasons had no problem finishing around 13th with far less resources and the players which are not near quality we have now.

Your quote is the real question and looking at the starting players it was good spending

Edited by grumpymort (19 Mar 2023 5.05pm)

 


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View joe_cpfc's Profile joe_cpfc Flag Basingstoke 19 Mar 23 4.54pm Send a Private Message to joe_cpfc Add joe_cpfc as a friend

Originally posted by PalaceDevon

well thanks guys for all your comments and friendship over the 50 years I have supported Palace.

I will still continue to support the team but I am not going to be on Holmesdale to receive comments about my comments

thanks goodbye and thanks for all the fish

Double flounce?

 

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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 19 Mar 23 4.58pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

It’s obvious we are going to be argueing amongst ourselves , the team is in free fall , there is no doubt about it , in my opinion after all my optimism is we are now definitely relegated , but let’s not turn on each other

 


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View Plaistow Eagle's Profile Plaistow Eagle Flag 19 Mar 23 4.58pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


So you have competed at the highest level have you and you was sick at the time

NO

Be quiet money has nothing to do with it.

Ahamada has played how many minutes in prem at senior level as of today 85min and you think its fine to just drop him in again currently the best team in this country under a temp manager.

You have no clue jog on to the pub.

Mate by the sounds of things you've been in the pub all afternoon..!!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 19 Mar 23 5.08pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Yep fair summary and the answer to your question is SP, DF and the board..!!

As I've said on here on another thread SP likes to be seen/known as the "Big Kahuna", covets the "Big Chair" and remunerates himself accordingly to the point he's the 3rd highest paid Director in the Premier League..!!

Over to you SP - your decisions have led us to where we are right now - now can you prove your worth and get us out of it..??

Forget saving us in 2010 - that's gone, done and dusted - right here and now is what will define you..!!

So aside from all the "egotistical" self promotion can you actually do the job - that you pay yourself so fabulously well to do - and get us out of this..??

Based upon track history I suspect not -but hope SP proves me wrong..!!

Time will tell..!!

COYP

This is about right, well said!

 

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