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 Petealiator  1066 Country! 06 Jan 05 9.07pm |
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Quote Seth at 06 Jan 2005 8:04pm
our culture has always been a mish-mash of different influences and traditions. Well lets have a look at that old leftie - we've never actually had a culture of our own - chestnut shall we. 4000BC - 1200BC Neolithic and Beaker People, generally believed to be of European origin. 1200BC - 43AD Celtic People (The Britons) Generally believed to be of European origin. 43AD - 401AD Roman Britain. The Romans were of European origin. 43AD - 449AD Romano British era. 449AD - 1066AD - Saxon Britain. Saxons were of Germanic origin. The Norman's (Norse settlers of northern France) conquered Britain in 1066, but there was no ethnic replacement, only the ruling classes were replaced. The Vikings also eventually settled in large parts of Eastern England and were absorbed into English cultural life and we all know they where they came from. So, for over six thousand years we've had a culture unique to the island of Britain. A culture totally European and totally Germanic and Scandinavian, even the language is a mix of Germanic and Scandinavian languages with a spattering of French. English culture is a mixture of Germanic and Scandinavian culture, as is the language, as is the blood. If you can trace your family line beyond the Victorian era, you will almost certainly find your line to be Anglo-Saxon, Anglo-Norman or Anglo-Scandinavian, all of which are Germanic in origin. All other major cultural influences came to these shores within the last fifty to a hundred years, which hardly places them in the category of "always". Our culture is long, rich and proud. As rich and colourful as any culture in the world. It certainly is NOT a mish-mash of anything! Have no hatred of any other culture in the world, enjoy and savour the diverse cultures you encounter, but more importantly, strive to preserve them all, including your own! English culture is not being enriched or enhanced, it's being crushed and that's why I'm concerned!
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 A_JsShorts 06 Jan 05 9.15pm |
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I am so confused, isn't that what he was saying, you just don't like his choice of words.
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| deleted1 06 Jan 05 9.23pm | |
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| deleted1 06 Jan 05 9.26pm | |
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| HorshamEagle under the union jack 06 Jan 05 10.38pm |
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Quote Seth at 06 Jan 2005 8:16pm
Quote SpikeyMatt at 06 Jan 2005 8:00pm
Right, OK. Of course you're allowed an opinion, I'm not denying you that but I just felt your first comment on the thread was a little odd, that's all. Seems I was misunderstood.
IMHO, it's much harder having a debate on a messageboard rather than in person because there are no non-verbal cues and you can't pick up nuances of irony or shades of meaning which can be conveyed face-to-face. So misunderstandings are more common and people can get irate because it's sometimes difficult to get their message across. Just an observation, for what it's worth. No, because there is no significance attached to those names being in the top 10, however a name of foreign origin being in the top 10 signifies a change in the countries population and culture and is therefore worthy of comment.
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| Matt_Hep Block B 06 Jan 05 11.09pm |
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Oh my word, Seth your response on here is truly embaressing.
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Seth  On a pale blue dot 06 Jan 05 11.31pm |
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Quote Matt_Hep at 06 Jan 2005 11:09pm
Oh my word, Seth your response on here is truly embaressing.
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| mikeyeagle Worthing 06 Jan 05 11.31pm |
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It seems that some of the names a lot of people consider are "old people's names" seem to be growing in popularity - Daisy at No.32 ? Last person I heard of with that name was 83...
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jcreedy  06 Jan 05 11.34pm |
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I can't see Mavis making a re-entry to the top ten though somehow.
It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007) |
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 06 Jan 05 11.35pm |
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Quote Petealiator at 06 Jan 2005 9:07pm
Quote Seth at 06 Jan 2005 8:04pm
our culture has always been a mish-mash of different influences and traditions. Well lets have a look at that old leftie - we've never actually had a culture of our own - chestnut shall we. 4000BC - 1200BC Neolithic and Beaker People, generally believed to be of European origin. 1200BC - 43AD Celtic People (The Britons) Generally believed to be of European origin. 43AD - 401AD Roman Britain. The Romans were of European origin. 43AD - 449AD Romano British era. 449AD - 1066AD - Saxon Britain. Saxons were of Germanic origin. The Norman's (Norse settlers of northern France) conquered Britain in 1066, but there was no ethnic replacement, only the ruling classes were replaced. The Vikings also eventually settled in large parts of Eastern England and were absorbed into English cultural life and we all know they where they came from. So, for over six thousand years we've had a culture unique to the island of Britain. A culture totally European and totally Germanic and Scandinavian, even the language is a mix of Germanic and Scandinavian languages with a spattering of French. English culture is a mixture of Germanic and Scandinavian culture, as is the language, as is the blood. If you can trace your family line beyond the Victorian era, you will almost certainly find your line to be Anglo-Saxon, Anglo-Norman or Anglo-Scandinavian, all of which are Germanic in origin. All other major cultural influences came to these shores within the last fifty to a hundred years, which hardly places them in the category of "always". Our culture is long, rich and proud. As rich and colourful as any culture in the world. It certainly is NOT a mish-mash of anything! Have no hatred of any other culture in the world, enjoy and savour the diverse cultures you encounter, but more importantly, strive to preserve them all, including your own! English culture is not being enriched or enhanced, it's being crushed and that's why I'm concerned!
As for Romans, they were made up of people from all over the Roman Empire, including large parts of North Africa and Asia [Link] There are many documented cases of dark-skinned people coming to these shores centuries before the last 50-100 years you state. "Black and Asian presence in the North East of England can be traced back to Septimius Severus, a North African Libyan, who ruled England as Roman Emperor between 193-211 AD." [Link] Edited by Seth (06 Jan 2005 11:41pm) Edited by Seth (06 Jan 2005 11:46pm)
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| deleted1 06 Jan 05 11.36pm | |
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| rach_cpfc South Croydon 06 Jan 05 11.41pm |
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Quote mikeyeagle at 06 Jan 2005 11:31pm
It seems that some of the names a lot of people consider are "old people's names" seem to be growing in popularity - Daisy at No.32 ? Last person I heard of with that name was 83... It's true - in my 6 month - 4 year old music classes, here's a few of the old fashioned names:
"....They will soar on wings like EAGLES; they will run and not grow |
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