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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 09 Jan 05 12.54pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

Quote ElliottHutchins at 09 Jan 2005 12:36pm

Quote mattwebb at 09 Jan 2005 12:27pm

I'm out, meet me on [Link]

Think ill pass on that thanks. If i ever do drop by, youll know ill be sure to ask for a cup of tea and a bible.

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Shame you'll pass on that, ever heard of the story of the rich man and the poor man?

 

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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 09 Jan 05 12.55pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

Quote Bean at 09 Jan 2005 12:53pm

Well there we go, i guess Matt can't answer my hard hitting questions after all.

Go on, what are they, list them for me now, and I will answer each one now. The thing is I have answered many of these questions so many times probably on this thread even, that it is quite tedious, but list them now and I'll answer them now.


Can't say fairer than that.

 

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Quote mattwebb at 09 Jan 2005 12:01pm

I don't just believe in Jesus Christ because of Bible, I have a relationship with Him, I speak to Him, He answers my prayers.


Next time you have a word with him, can you ask him to keep Palace up and get Wayne to sign his contract?

 


It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 09 Jan 05 1.03pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

ok


although I am sure there are some Christian West Brom, Southampton, Norwich and Fulham fans praying the same!

Edited by mattwebb (09 Jan 2005 1:04pm)

 

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View Bean's Profile Bean Flag Ipswich 09 Jan 05 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Bean Add Bean as a friend

I thought you'd gone cos you couldnt be doing with us ignorant people?

who is God, where did he come from?
where is heaven physically?
Why are Christians winners and non Christians loosers?
Why is Mary white, and God a man?
How do you know that living your life by this religion is all worth it?
why doesnt God intervene in world events?
Surely Christians cannot have free will because the fact that they live their lives the way they do must take away some elements of freedom?

 


Boys are Studpid, Throw Rocks at Them........

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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 09 Jan 05 1.15pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

I thought you'd gone cos you couldnt be doing with us ignorant people?

who is God, where did he come from?

God is the beginning, the alpha the omega, there has to be a beginning, and the only thing that can be the beginning is something that didn't need to be created, designed or have any beginning. The possibility of a creator outside of time, and human understanding is the only logical possibility.

God is a loving, forgiving, longsuffering but just and graceful God.

where is heaven physically?

Heaven doesn't exist physically, it is a place that only your soul can go, otherwise maybe one day we could discover it. - it certainly wasn't at the Stadium of Light yesterday.

Why are Christians winners and non Christians loosers?

I was saying that non-Christians seem to reguarly look down on Christians as losers, and point was saying that if anyone WAS a loser it wasn't the Christian.

Christian's have eternal life, non-Christians don't YET.

Why is Mary white, and God a man?

Who said Mary is white? God is a man because He is a man, why are you a woman?

How do you know that living your life by this religion is all worth it?

Because it has been so far!

why doesnt God intervene in world events?

He gave humans free will, He's not going to take it away just because we can't be trusted with it.

Surely Christians cannot have free will because the fact that they live their lives the way they do must take away some elements of freedom?

Christians make the choice using their free will, to submit to God's will. They can change their mind anytime they want, we still have free will, and sometimes we slip up, we aren't perfect don't claim to be, and shouldn't be expected to be.

Next....


Edited by mattwebb (09 Jan 2005 1:16pm)

 

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Quote mattwebb at 09 Jan 2005 1:15pm


who is God, where did he come from?

God is the beginning, the alpha the omega, there has to be a beginning, and the only thing that can be the beginning is something that didn't need to be created, designed or have any beginning. The possibility of a creator outside of time, and human understanding is the only logical possibility.

Edited by mattwebb (09 Jan 2005 1:16pm)

So there must be an end somewhere then ??

Edited by Sexyeagle21 (09 Jan 2005 1:26pm)

 

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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 09 Jan 05 1.27pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

No.

But something had to start the beginning of the universe.

I do however believe there will be an end.

 

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View Sexyeagle21's Profile Sexyeagle21 Flag Croydon 09 Jan 05 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Sexyeagle21 Add Sexyeagle21 as a friend

So this is why people believe in the big bang theory, and some may even think this is how it will end

 

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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 09 Jan 05 1.33pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

What started the thing that caused the thing that started the thing that caused the big bang, if it really happened?

 

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View Sexyeagle21's Profile Sexyeagle21 Flag Croydon 09 Jan 05 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Sexyeagle21 Add Sexyeagle21 as a friend

Goes back to what i said earlier, no-one will ever know that answer!

 

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View tetley's Profile tetley Flag Wimbledon 09 Jan 05 1.45pm Send a Private Message to tetley Add tetley as a friend

and this brings us nicely back to the beginning of the thread.

having read the entire thread again, there are not too many questions that have gone unanswered and there have beenvery interesting answers.

i've learnt a lot about both sides of the argument. it is fairly obvious that both sides require a arge proportion of faith and that neither side holds all of the answers.

however, if your belief makes you happy and suits you best then so be it. as long as you can then accept the views of others and hold a rational debate then there are no problems.

so well done Rach for starting an interesting thread and thanks to all (but one) of the posters who have made this thread so interesting.

 


It's not the fall that's important.....it's the landing

All Nature is but Art, unknown to thee;
All Chance, Direction, which thou canst not see;
All Discord, Harmony, not understood;
All partial Evil, universal Good

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