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Jonsey Flag wherever I lay my toolbox thats my... 07 Jan 05 3.06pm

Religion has never really interested me, but a point ill make talking to an imaginary friend is considered strange yet talking to God is not strange???

No-one has proof that either exist so why the double standerds?

 


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Everyone can put their opinion across as forcefully as they like, no-one is 100% sure of their theory, there's always a what-if factor with this kind of question.

Religion provokes a lot "what-if" questions which lead to misguidence in my opinion.

 


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View rach_cpfc's Profile rach_cpfc Flag South Croydon 07 Jan 05 3.12pm Send a Private Message to rach_cpfc Add rach_cpfc as a friend

Goodness me, what did I start?!

Right, firstly, the "what is a Christian?" question.
I believe that being a Christian is not about belong to a religion or going to church, though both of those things can help, support and nuture you.
From my understanding, and from what the bible says, it's about having a personal relationship with God. It's about believing that Jesus was the son of God as part of the Holy Trinity. About believing that He lived the perfect life on earth, yet He was killed so we might have eternity with God despite our sins (no one else here is perfect, right??)
It's not about completely understanding all those things - if you could understand it all then you would be God - but about having faith.

God may not be here in person now, but he WAS 2000 years ago, and he is still very much in control of the world. There are so mnay more good things in the world than bad things, so many things that we all have to be thankful for.

I can't imagine thinking that I'm here because of one big fluke, I'd imagine it would make place much less value on my own life.

Edited by rach_d_cpfc (07 Jan 2005 3:14pm)

 


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View Danger's Profile Danger Flag Playa del Merstham 07 Jan 05 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Danger Add Danger as a friend

Quote God may not be here in person now, but he WAS 200 years ago

So my great-grandparents could've met God?

And how can we know God is a "he"?

 


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View Singapore Eagle's Profile Singapore Eagle Flag ....back in London now 07 Jan 05 3.22pm Send a Private Message to Singapore Eagle Add Singapore Eagle as a friend

God may not be here in person now, but he WAS 2000 years ago

Rach, the muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet of Allah - it is just a different interpretation.

Who knows who is correct?

 

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View rach_cpfc's Profile rach_cpfc Flag South Croydon 07 Jan 05 3.29pm Send a Private Message to rach_cpfc Add rach_cpfc as a friend

Quote Danger at 07 Jan 2005 3:15pm

Quote God may not be here in person now, but he WAS 200 years ago

So my great-grandparents could've met God?

And how can we know God is a "he"?

So I missed a zero! Edited now.

The Bible refers to God as He so I'm happy to go along with that.

Quote Singapore Eagle at 07 Jan 2005 3:22pm

Rach, the muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet of Allah - it is just a different interpretation.

Who knows who is correct?

And I believe that they are wrong. What can I say??

 


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weary, they will walk and not be faint."

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Quote rach_d_cpfc at 07 Jan 2005 3:29pm

Quote Danger at 07 Jan 2005 3:15pm

Quote God may not be here in person now, but he WAS 200 years ago

So my great-grandparents could've met God?

And how can we know God is a "he"?

So I missed a zero! Edited now.

The Bible refers to God as He so I'm happy to go along with that.

OK, all is forgiven....

 


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View Singapore Eagle's Profile Singapore Eagle Flag ....back in London now 07 Jan 05 3.48pm Send a Private Message to Singapore Eagle Add Singapore Eagle as a friend

Quote rach_d_cpfc at 07 Jan 2005 3:29pm

Quote Singapore Eagle at 07 Jan 2005 3:22pm

Rach, the muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet of Allah - it is just a different interpretation.

Who knows who is correct?

And I believe that they are wrong. What can I say??


Well, as long as you are not going to start a new crusade we should all be OK!!!

 

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View yellabubs's Profile yellabubs Flag Sheffield 07 Jan 05 3.52pm Send a Private Message to yellabubs Add yellabubs as a friend

Quote rach_d_cpfc at 07 Jan 2005 3:12pm

It's not about completely understanding all those things - if you could understand it all then you would be God - but about having faith.

Edited by rach_d_cpfc (07 Jan 2005 3:14pm)

It's scary not having answers to big questions like why are we here, where did we come from and what happens when we die?

The God idea is a nice one as it isn't too difficult for us humans to get our heads around and it provides reassurance that there is life after death. The fact that there's no evidence to support this theory doesn't matter because believers simply argue that it's a matter of "faith" and "of course it doesn't make sense... if you understood it you'd be God".

If people take comfort from such delusions then who am I to burst their bubble? Personally, I think the meaning of life will turn out to be a little more complicated than the God created everything theory.

 

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Quote rach_d_cpfc at 07 Jan 2005 3:12pm

God may not be here in person now, but he WAS 2000 years ago, and he is still very much in control of the world. There are so mnay more good things in the world than bad things, so many things that we all have to be thankful for.

Edited by rach_d_cpfc (07 Jan 2005 3:14pm)


Rach, this is the sort of comment that drives me crazy. You don't know that God was here 2000 years ago at all, none of us do. You simply believe he was and assume that your beliefs are right with everybody else's being wrong.

I'd disagree that there are more good things in the world right now than bad. The world is full of heartache, pain and destruction and will probably get worse before it gets better. God won't help us to rebuild people's lives after war, tsunami's, earthquakes and starvation. We have to do that ourselves. A God that allows all this to happen surely can't exist, and if he did, would be nothing but a waste of space.

I love you to bits Rach, but I wish you'd open your eyes a little wider sometimes.

 


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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 07 Jan 05 4.14pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

I completely agree with everything Rach said.

Yellabubs, what is it that you don't understand about Christianity, I will do my best to explain it from a Christian's perspective.

 

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View mattwebb's Profile mattwebb Flag Sutton 07 Jan 05 4.15pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

JCreedy you are right, the world has much more bad in it than good, and it is getting worse.

The Bible predicted it would, and now we see the prophecies coming true.

 

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