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 roffeyeagle  Freedman Wonderland 24 Mar 05 1.13pm |
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I say only let them in if they have something to offer us that is better than we already have. If they are doctors, then fine, if they are a professional of some sort, then fine. But why should people be able to come to our country and sponge of the Government? It's got to change.
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| JollyStef 24 Mar 05 1.17pm |
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Don't get me started on this topic ... Too soft ??? The whole of Western Europe is like a bloody soft teddybear. The Scandinavian countries have got it right .. still I don't hear anyone telling them they're racist. Mind you, they wouldn't give a f*** if they got that comment, they just say "internal politics, keep out of it", just like the Americans do for most of their decisions. Yet we need to listen to every other countries (and the f***ing do-gooders in our own countries) ?? BS guys, pure BS I wanna see us try it in the middle-east !! See how far we get !
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cupid stunt  24 Mar 05 1.20pm |
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its only a small island, theres only so many people we can fit on it, something should be done berfore were all living shoulder to shoulder, crowd surfing to work!!
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| jacksd Downham, kent 24 Mar 05 1.21pm |
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I think we should have the same immigration policy as Austrilia. Where if you want to move to the country you got to write a 5 page essay (maybe longer I cant remember) You have to have a place to live before you even enter the country and you have to find work within a month or you'll be kicked out
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 A_JsShorts 24 Mar 05 1.29pm |
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Are we talking about Asylum Seekers or economic migrants here? They are two very diiferent things with different policies. If you want to come and live in this country, you have to attend an interview in the consulate in the Country you are from. You have to prove why you want to live in Britain and prove you have work and somewhere to live, or someone who will provide you with somewhere to stay and finacially support you. It's not as easy as people think it is to get a visa to come and live and work here, or marry someone and live here, or to even come here on holiday. Edited by A_JsShorts (24 Mar 2005 1:30pm)
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| Bexter By the Sea 24 Mar 05 1.36pm |
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or illegal immigrants? again ,the lumping in together that goes on in these threads.... spend more money for resources to process poeple quicker and weed out the bogus ones so the legit ones who have seen worse things than you can ever imagine, can have the safe haven they deserve and we can offer. then they can add to our ailing work force and boost our economy for us too - a win win situation.
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| stevobongo on the throne.... 24 Mar 05 3.05pm |
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How do they get over here in the first place to be 'processed'? I could understand if we had borders like on the continent but as an island do they just jump on a plane and arrive? If you did that in the states or in Oz or in most countries for that matter you'd be turned straight back around and put on the next flight home. In fact you cant even get onto an aeroplane or boat going to another country without the right documentation from Britain can you? I recon we're a soft touch, I laugheds when a few years ago(ish) all those 'asylum seekers' tried to get to Oz on a boat and the government stopped them and were gonna let them rot at sea. They have the right idea. Quote A_JsShorts at 24 Mar 2005 1:12pm
So whilst someone is awaiting a decision on their case what do you think we should do with them? I have seen cases from people in the UK who arrived in the early 1990's and there cases were taking over 3 years to process, now it can be a matter of months or weeks. Claims to asylum have as you may have noticed in the press decreased, there are improvements being made. Asylum seekers no longer recieve state benefits they are referred to a place called NASS (national asylum support service) where they recieve vouchers that can be spent in certain shops ie Tesco's. This money amounts to about £20 per week I can find out the exact amount if people want to know. They are also usually placed into the scummiest B+B's which cost up to £250 a week because of the housing shortage. If they are given Reugee status or indefinate leave to remain, benefit wise they are treated with the same rules as us, single parents and pensioners are entitled to claim Income Support and people who are able to work are shipped off to the job centre where they are enrolled on courses to learn English and either find work or claim Job Seekers Allowance. As for British citizenship they would not beable to claim that unless they have resided in this country fo 5 years since there claim has been accepted. As for Refused asylum seekers, this is a joke and I agree the Governemnet has a lot to do in the deportation side of things but woth people being allowed to appaeal over and over again we can't kick then out. They cannot claim benefits whilst on appeal.
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| cupid stunt 24 Mar 05 3.11pm |
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economic migrants are good, but 250,000 a year or round about is obviously an unhealthy number for any country to take in, it must be stopped.
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| Balham Burner 24 Mar 05 3.22pm |
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What a lovely caring guy you are Steve. Just think - and accident of birth and you could have been an asylum seeker on that boat... JayT - the Gov't are introducing a citizenship test in the next few months. Not sure what the details are but it covers language/history/culture etc. with a written exam at the end. I think it's a good idea. I think most immigrants would like to fit in - this might help. The crux of the matter is that unemployment is very low with not enough people to fill the vacancies. You can solve this in 2 ways: 1. Economic migrants. 2. Train Brits in more skills to fill posts. To be fair to this government - they are doing something about skills. From next year employees will be required to give time off to learn skills (up to the equivalent of 5 GCSEs) that will help. The government will pay for the training. Good idea I reckon. Edited by Balham Burner (24 Mar 2005 3:23pm)
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| stevobongo on the throne.... 24 Mar 05 3.26pm |
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thats life, well thats what all the people say. by an accident of birth i could have been royalty too, i dont try and break into buckingham palace every day though. Quote Balham Burner at 24 Mar 2005 3:22pm
What a lovely caring guy you are Steve. Just think - and accident of birth and you could have been an asylum seeker on that boat... JayT - the Gov't are introducing a citizenship test in the next few months. Not sure what the details are but it covers language/history/culture etc. with a written exam at the end. I think it's a good idea. I think most immigrants would like to fit in - this might help. The crux of the matter is that unemployment is very low with not enough people to fill the vacancies. You can solve this in 2 ways: 1. Economic migrants. 2. Train Brits in more skills to fill posts. To be fair to this government - they are doing something about skills. From next year employees will be required to give time off to learn skills (up to the equivalent of 5 GCSEs) that will help. The government will pay for the training. Good idea I reckon. Edited by Balham Burner (24 Mar 2005 3:23pm)
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| Balham Burner 24 Mar 05 3.29pm |
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jcreedy  24 Mar 05 3.38pm |
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Certain sections of our society would grind to a halt if they weren't run by migrants who are willing to jobs that we aren't.
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