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Palace forever warlingham 07 Jul 05 9.25pm
I think Blair and Livingstone have been very good at handling this. AJAS:Member #12 Politically incorrect but so what.
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warlingham 07 Jul 05 9.25pm

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I think Blair and Livingstone have been very good at handling this.

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Politically incorrect but so what.

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Kosowski Standing at the top of B Block 07 Jul 05 9.28pm
Finally reached my cousin who works at the Polish embassy and thank god shes fine. Said they recieved no warning whatsoever about possible attacks this morning (often they get private security alerts that are not released to the public - but not this time) so I'm not sure why the Israeli's would have recieved some prior warning if indeed they did. She works as one of the aides to the ambassador and apparently he's been told unofficialy that the death toll will rise significantly Edited by Kosowski (07 Jul 2005 9:29pm) Block B comment of 2011/2012 Season: "That's better Palace, better...but still fucking shit!" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dann to Much, Much to Yong.
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Standing at the top of B Block 07 Jul 05 9.28pm

Finally reached my cousin who works at the Polish embassy and thank god shes fine. Said they recieved no warning whatsoever about possible attacks this morning (often they get private security alerts that are not released to the public - but not this time) so I'm not sure why the Israeli's would have recieved some prior warning if indeed they did. She works as one of the aides to the ambassador and apparently he's been told unofficialy that the death toll will rise significantly

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"That's better Palace, better...but still fucking shit!"

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Wilko Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 07 Jul 05 9.29pm
What I am about to sya it EXREMLEY contraversial. Isn't it time we shut the gates of England? Stopp lettin as many people in so lightly? We should start turning them away. My heart still goes out to all the people who died today. I also feel sorry for the abuse that the Arabs will be receiving for a minority of their religion behaving like muppets. I say kill the Terrorists by paper cutting them to death! Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!
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Wilko

Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 07 Jul 05 9.29pm

What I am about to sya it EXREMLEY contraversial.

Isn't it time we shut the gates of England? Stopp lettin as many people in so lightly?

We should start turning them away.

My heart still goes out to all the people who died today.

I also feel sorry for the abuse that the Arabs will be receiving for a minority of their religion behaving like muppets. I say kill the Terrorists by paper cutting them to death!

Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!

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Bedge Croydon 07 Jul 05 9.29pm
The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding! Extran Orange energy drink, Europe's number one hangover cure! The Special One
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Croydon 07 Jul 05 9.29pm

The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding!

Extran Orange energy drink, Europe's number one hangover cure!

The Special One

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Jul 05 9.31pm
Giovanni. Because these people are so scattered, I can't see the UK unilaterally going out to bomb some indeterminate country as 'revenge' for this. As you rightly say, it is virtually impossible to strike at their core, for the simple reason that there isn't one. You're also right in that we don't have any specific knowledge about Al Q'aeda other than the statements that they've made vowing to destroy the West. In fact, we don't even know if Al Q'aeda even exists in the same form that it did on 9/11. We have to go on what we know. What we know is that these people are fanatics whose beliefs are far, far outside our range of understanding and are seen as pariahs even by most (but probably not all) Arab governments. Faced with this 'invisibility', we are obliged to work with other countries in order to locate them and deal with them and, if necessary, encourage regime change in countries that openly and practically support them and their aims (such as in Afghanistan). Their fundamentalism will not permit them to deal with the West in any shape or form other than by attack. The onward march of fundamentalism is therefore the real problem here. By permitting fundamentalist activity in this country, we are effectively leaving our door wide open to terrorist attack, as other Western countries are, in their attempts to be 'tolerant'. Unfortunately, it is this very tolerance towards an ideology whose only objective is to destroy us that is our downfall. I can't even imagine what could be done to halt islamic fundamentalism and I fear what is yet to come - I suspect that events like today and 9/11 will pale into insignificance. We have no idea how many others are here, and nor do other countries know how many 'sleepers' they are harbouring. Asking about whether we'd kill them or not if caught is really beside the point - their value of human life, including their own, is evidently very little. We have to be increasingly vigilant and possibly surrender some of our much-cherished 'rights' in order to even begin to combat it (ID cards, here we come). And even then, that won't stop it. It's a very depressing thought. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 07 Jul 05 9.31pm

Giovanni. Because these people are so scattered, I can't see the UK unilaterally going out to bomb some indeterminate country as 'revenge' for this. As you rightly say, it is virtually impossible to strike at their core, for the simple reason that there isn't one. You're also right in that we don't have any specific knowledge about Al Q'aeda other than the statements that they've made vowing to destroy the West. In fact, we don't even know if Al Q'aeda even exists in the same form that it did on 9/11. We have to go on what we know.

What we know is that these people are fanatics whose beliefs are far, far outside our range of understanding and are seen as pariahs even by most (but probably not all) Arab governments. Faced with this 'invisibility', we are obliged to work with other countries in order to locate them and deal with them and, if necessary, encourage regime change in countries that openly and practically support them and their aims (such as in Afghanistan). Their fundamentalism will not permit them to deal with the West in any shape or form other than by attack. The onward march of fundamentalism is therefore the real problem here.

By permitting fundamentalist activity in this country, we are effectively leaving our door wide open to terrorist attack, as other Western countries are, in their attempts to be 'tolerant'. Unfortunately, it is this very tolerance towards an ideology whose only objective is to destroy us that is our downfall. I can't even imagine what could be done to halt islamic fundamentalism and I fear what is yet to come - I suspect that events like today and 9/11 will pale into insignificance. We have no idea how many others are here, and nor do other countries know how many 'sleepers' they are harbouring.

Asking about whether we'd kill them or not if caught is really beside the point - their value of human life, including their own, is evidently very little. We have to be increasingly vigilant and possibly surrender some of our much-cherished 'rights' in order to even begin to combat it (ID cards, here we come). And even then, that won't stop it. It's a very depressing thought.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Wilko Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 07 Jul 05 9.32pm
Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding! I was not there to witness this first hand thank god, However bye the sounds of it - With londoners mucking in to help(Well done) - they have done a good job. Also our transport service may be s* but to have the busses NEAR back to full service and the trains making their way to full service by tomorrow hopefully is a big acheivment. Well done to all involved. Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!**
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Wilko

Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 07 Jul 05 9.32pm

Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm

The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding!

I was not there to witness this first hand thank god, However bye the sounds of it - With londoners mucking in to help(Well done) - they have done a good job.

Also our transport service may be s*** but to have the busses NEAR back to full service and the trains making their way to full service by tomorrow hopefully is a big acheivment.

Well done to all involved.

Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!

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Giovanni In Bed & I'm staying there! 07 Jul 05 9.36pm
Quote Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm What I am about to sya it EXREMLEY contraversial. Isn't it time we shut the gates of England? Stopp lettin as many people in so lightly? We should start turning them away. My heart still goes out to all the people who died today. I also feel sorry for the abuse that the Arabs will be receiving for a minority of their religion behaving like muppets. I say kill the Terrorists by paper cutting them to death! Not controversial. Just rather pointless. My Wife said the same thing, for some reason forgetting she married into a family of Irish & Italian imigrants. We don't actually know the nationality of the terrorists. Sure they are probably Al Quieda. But as a result they could be sleeper cells comprisng of what could appear to be your average British, white man or women who underneath are Bin Laden sympathisers/fanatics as much as someone from another country. This club has had some great moments. Ready for some more? [Link]
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In Bed & I'm staying there! 07 Jul 05 9.36pm

Quote Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm

What I am about to sya it EXREMLEY contraversial.

Isn't it time we shut the gates of England? Stopp lettin as many people in so lightly?

We should start turning them away.

My heart still goes out to all the people who died today.

I also feel sorry for the abuse that the Arabs will be receiving for a minority of their religion behaving like muppets. I say kill the Terrorists by paper cutting them to death!

Not controversial. Just rather pointless. My Wife said the same thing, for some reason forgetting she married into a family of Irish & Italian imigrants. We don't actually know the nationality of the terrorists. Sure they are probably Al Quieda. But as a result they could be sleeper cells comprisng of what could appear to be your average British, white man or women who underneath are Bin Laden sympathisers/fanatics as much as someone from another country.

This club has had some great moments.

Ready for some more?

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Bedge Croydon 07 Jul 05 9.41pm
Quote Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:32pm Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding! I was not there to witness this first hand thank god, However bye the sounds of it - With londoners mucking in to help(Well done) - they have done a good job. Also our transport service may be s* but to have the busses NEAR back to full service and the trains making their way to full service by tomorrow hopefully is a big acheivment.** Well done to all involved. That's the good thing about our country, we may get knocked down but we get back up stronger then before. These attacks will only make us a stronger country and we will carry on and show these terrorists that we WONT be beaten! Extran Orange energy drink, Europe's number one hangover cure! The Special One
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Bedge

Croydon 07 Jul 05 9.41pm

Quote Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:32pm

Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm

The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding!

I was not there to witness this first hand thank god, However bye the sounds of it - With londoners mucking in to help(Well done) - they have done a good job.

Also our transport service may be s*** but to have the busses NEAR back to full service and the trains making their way to full service by tomorrow hopefully is a big acheivment.

Well done to all involved.

That's the good thing about our country, we may get knocked down but we get back up stronger then before.

These attacks will only make us a stronger country and we will carry on and show these terrorists that we WONT be beaten!

Extran Orange energy drink, Europe's number one hangover cure!

The Special One

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Wilko Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 07 Jul 05 9.42pm
This was posted on another Board i frequent. Not too sure what to think of it. Those that see them as the enemy, may like to note that if they go on the UBA march they could well be marching with them. FROM UBA Hello there, I am from the UBA (United British Alliance), a non-racist organisation. We are planning a demonstration in London on July 23rd, where we will march UNITED as patriotic British people. We have already scored victories against Muslim terrorists, in particular, Omar Bakri who preaches hate against this country whilst claiming benefits of approximately £2000 a week from the government. We are sick of fascists who claim to have the best interests of the country because they do not accept that there are British Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, and British people from other ethnic origins. We are also sick of the PC world and nanny state that we have to live in, and are sick to the pits of our stomachs that human rights would be infringed in order to protect innocent people like those who died today. We have a forum where issues are discussed between many people. We have details of the march coming up online soon, and we want to help co-ordinate a mass protest to persuade the government to take stronger action on immigration, human rights policy, and against those who want to harm our country whilst fleecing taxpayers or hard earned money. We do believe in freedom of speech though, we do believe in democracy, but most of all, we believe in Great Britain. We have been successful last year in stopping Muslim rallies held by Omar Bakri, we were given permission to lay a wreath at the 9/11 memorial on behalf of British people which was conducted impeccably and solemnly, and we marched alongside British Sikhs amongst many others who oppose the threat of terrorism. We are patriots not racists. We care for all those who are British and have Britain's interests at heart. I thank you for your time and hope that you can take a look at our website and join us in our demonstration. We must put pressure on the government to rid our shores of terror. Thoughts? Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!
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Wilko

Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 07 Jul 05 9.42pm

This was posted on another Board i frequent. Not too sure what to think of it.

Those that see them as the enemy, may like to note that if they go on the UBA march they could well be marching with them.

FROM UBA

Hello there,

I am from the UBA (United British Alliance), a non-racist organisation. We are planning a demonstration in London on July 23rd, where we will march UNITED as patriotic British people.
We have already scored victories against Muslim terrorists, in particular, Omar Bakri who preaches hate against this country whilst claiming benefits of approximately £2000 a week from the government.
We are sick of fascists who claim to have the best interests of the country because they do not accept that there are British Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, and British people from other ethnic origins.
We are also sick of the PC world and nanny state that we have to live in, and are sick to the pits of our stomachs that human rights would be infringed in order to protect innocent people like those who died today.
We have a forum where issues are discussed between many people. We have details of the march coming up online soon, and we want to help co-ordinate a mass protest to persuade the government to take stronger action on immigration, human rights policy, and against those who want to harm our country whilst fleecing taxpayers or hard earned money. We do believe in freedom of speech though, we do believe in democracy, but most of all, we believe in Great Britain.

We have been successful last year in stopping Muslim rallies held by Omar Bakri, we were given permission to lay a wreath at the 9/11 memorial on behalf of British people which was conducted impeccably and solemnly, and we marched alongside British Sikhs amongst many others who oppose the threat of terrorism.

We are patriots not racists. We care for all those who are British and have Britain's interests at heart.

I thank you for your time and hope that you can take a look at our website and join us in our demonstration. We must put pressure on the government to rid our shores of terror.

Thoughts?

Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!

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lefthanded eagle Forest Hill 07 Jul 05 9.44pm
[quote]Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm What I am about to sya it EXREMLEY contraversial. Isn't it time we shut the gates of England? Stopp lettin as many people in so lightly? We should start turning them away. My heart still goes out to all the people who died today. I also feel sorry for the abuse that the Arabs will be receiving for a minority of their religion behaving like muppets. I say kill the Terrorists by paper cutting them to death! Not that controversial mate, but lacking in accuracy a bit. The people who carried out the attacks today will most likely have been in the county a while. They may even be legitimate British nationals, with passports rather than papers, and it is not beyond the realms of fantasy to say there is a possibility of them having British parents. Bin Laden studied in England and was an Arsenal fan...he used to go to Highbury and cheer the Gooners on. Do you think there was anything that could have been done to prevent him from formulating his ideas and establishing the principles that would one day lead to suffering and shame? There have been a lot of measures taken to prevent people from getting in to this country "too lightly", as you say. But it takes time, and you can't realistically expect all the evil people to disappear in a flash. Like I said, it take time, and you have to have some patience, although I admit times like this test patience severely. There are still aspects of immigration law in this country that make me laugh, and I have been subject to it myself, indirectly, but I believe we're on the right track. As with a lot of things, it is an extremely complicated and delicate issue that can't be solved overnight. I'm the kind of person that likes to concentrate on the positives. I'm proud of being English but I'm also proud that my country is the second most diverse, tolerant and multicultural place I know. It is a fine line between keeping it that way and letting it slip, but if we carry on being vigilant we will be okay. Not to say there is not a serious problem, but it is something to be conscious of rather than hysterical about. You always get more done when you have composure on your side. "How can I soar like an Eagle when I'm surrounded by these turkeys?"
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[quote]Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm

What I am about to sya it EXREMLEY contraversial.

Isn't it time we shut the gates of England? Stopp lettin as many people in so lightly?

We should start turning them away.

My heart still goes out to all the people who died today.

I also feel sorry for the abuse that the Arabs will be receiving for a minority of their religion behaving like muppets. I say kill the Terrorists by paper cutting them to death!

Not that controversial mate, but lacking in accuracy a bit.

The people who carried out the attacks today will most likely have been in the county a while. They may even be legitimate British nationals, with passports rather than papers, and it is not beyond the realms of fantasy to say there is a possibility of them having British parents. Bin Laden studied in England and was an Arsenal fan...he used to go to Highbury and cheer the Gooners on. Do you think there was anything that could have been done to prevent him from formulating his ideas and establishing the principles that would one day lead to suffering and shame?

There have been a lot of measures taken to prevent people from getting in to this country "too lightly", as you say. But it takes time, and you can't realistically expect all the evil people to disappear in a flash. Like I said, it take time, and you have to have some patience, although I admit times like this test patience severely. There are still aspects of immigration law in this country that make me laugh, and I have been subject to it myself, indirectly, but I believe we're on the right track. As with a lot of things, it is an extremely complicated and delicate issue that can't be solved overnight.

I'm the kind of person that likes to concentrate on the positives. I'm proud of being English but I'm also proud that my country is the second most diverse, tolerant and multicultural place I know. It is a fine line between keeping it that way and letting it slip, but if we carry on being vigilant we will be okay. Not to say there is not a serious problem, but it is something to be conscious of rather than hysterical about. You always get more done when you have composure on your side.

"How can I soar like an Eagle when I'm surrounded by these turkeys?"

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Jul 05 9.44pm
Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:41pm Quote Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:32pm Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding! I was not there to witness this first hand thank god, However bye the sounds of it - With londoners mucking in to help(Well done) - they have done a good job. Also our transport service may be s* but to have the busses NEAR back to full service and the trains making their way to full service by tomorrow hopefully is a big acheivment. Well done to all involved. That's the good thing about our country, we may get knocked down but we get back up stronger then before. These attacks will only make us a stronger country and we will carry on and show these terrorists that we WONT be beaten! Round of applause. Excellent post. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham**
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Clapham on the Back 07 Jul 05 9.44pm

Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:41pm

Quote Wilko at 07 Jul 2005 9:32pm

Quote Bedge at 07 Jul 2005 9:29pm

The Emergency services must be praised for the way they handled things today, they were totally outstanding!

I was not there to witness this first hand thank god, However bye the sounds of it - With londoners mucking in to help(Well done) - they have done a good job.

Also our transport service may be s*** but to have the busses NEAR back to full service and the trains making their way to full service by tomorrow hopefully is a big acheivment.

Well done to all involved.

That's the good thing about our country, we may get knocked down but we get back up stronger then before.

These attacks will only make us a stronger country and we will carry on and show these terrorists that we WONT be beaten!

Round of applause. Excellent post.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Bean Ipswich 07 Jul 05 9.45pm
The only way to really stop terrorists is to stop their flow of cash. With no money they cannot function and somehow they are being supported. We cannot fight an invisible enemy. These people could be anyone, please dont jump to conclusions that they are immigrants. For all we know, they could be our neighbours, the people we bump into in the local shop, or sit on the next table to when we have a drink in the pub - perfectly ordinary looking people, and that in itself is what makes them so dangerous - a horrible thought i know. So closing the doors i think will be pointless. I think that after today, everyone will know someone, or knows of someone who has been affected by today in one way or another. This is not the time to start a civil/racial war amongst ourselves , but we all need to pull together to find those responsible and to report anything we think is ood or suspicious about anyone - black, white, asian, men, women, old or young. Dont think that someone else will do it because everyone else might think the same thing..... I have faith that the intelligence agencies will find out who is responsible and try to cut off their finance - however, that in itself may open up a whole new can of worms. Boys are Studpid, Throw Rocks at Them........
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Ipswich 07 Jul 05 9.45pm

The only way to really stop terrorists is to stop their flow of cash. With no money they cannot function and somehow they are being supported. We cannot fight an invisible enemy. These people could be anyone, please dont jump to conclusions that they are immigrants. For all we know, they could be our neighbours, the people we bump into in the local shop, or sit on the next table to when we have a drink in the pub - perfectly ordinary looking people, and that in itself is what makes them so dangerous - a horrible thought i know. So closing the doors i think will be pointless.

I think that after today, everyone will know someone, or knows of someone who has been affected by today in one way or another. This is not the time to start a civil/racial war amongst ourselves , but we all need to pull together to find those responsible and to report anything we think is ood or suspicious about anyone - black, white, asian, men, women, old or young. Dont think that someone else will do it because everyone else might think the same thing.....

I have faith that the intelligence agencies will find out who is responsible and try to cut off their finance - however, that in itself may open up a whole new can of worms.

Boys are Studpid, Throw Rocks at Them........

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