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Quote Lee McB at 19 Mar 2003 5:34pm

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Quote mrfenandes at 19 Mar 2003 5:23pm

they should make it legal and change the terms as cigarettes with it - smoke it in your own backyard!

theres nothing more i cant stand then digging into some greasy burger and chips whilst some genius sitting next to me is blowing his cancer stick my way, it stinks and i can't understand why anyone would do it - fair play if they do, but why should i have to breathe in they're laryngitis (however thats spelt!) whilst theyre at it

It's simple MrF. Don't eat at that particular establishment. I'm sure there are many other places to eat that are smoke free. You chose to eat there, just as that person chose to smoke a fag.


But I'm guessing that such an establishment is there for food to be sold and consumed. That's its primary use, so why should he have to bugger off just because some guy's trying to kill himself?

MrF made a decision to eat at a place that allows smoking. Don't blame the bloke for sparking up, blame the restaurant owner. If he made a decision to eat at a restaurant that doesen't allow smoking, none of this would be relevant and he could happily tuck into his greasy burger, that will probably harm him more than the tiny amount of passive smoke inhaled throughout that meal.
One of the beuties about this country is the amount of options available. If you don't like kids, don't go to maccy d's. If you don't like old people, don't go to the tea rooms. If you don't like smoking, don't go to the greasy spoon.

 

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Quote Meerkat 2 at 20 Mar 2003 8:42am

No it should not be legalised but there's no reason why it shouldn't be available as a prescription drug for pain relief just as opium products are.

I have smoked dope in the past (but frankly it's not my type of drug) but since I've had kids I won't touch anything and won't allow anyone to use drugs or smoke in my house or in front of my kids.

My argument for not legalising it is this:

I don't want it sanitised in the way cigarettes and alchohol are. I certainly don't want to see spliffs next to the superkings in Tesco's. I've got no problem with people smoking it in their own homes but I don't want my kids any more exposed to it than they are already likely to be. For those people that want to use cannabis it's simple enough to get hold of and it's not expensive to buy.

Personally, as a dope smoker, I would like to see the laws relaxed, but I totally understand views like the one above. I'm also concerned that, if legalised, the product would fall under the control of big business (and I'm not the biggest fan). Mind you, while it remains illegal, it's highly likely that much of the money goes to serious criminals and perhaps even terrorists.

I think some sort of compromise is needed; clearly the current laws are ridiculous and unworkable.

Perhaps possession should be decriminalised, and people should be allowed to grow their own.

 


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Quote Eddie_Hitler at 20 Mar 2003 9:29am
MrF made a decision to eat at a place that allows smoking. Don't blame the bloke for sparking up, blame the restaurant owner. If he made a decision to eat at a restaurant that doesen't allow smoking, none of this would be relevant and he could happily tuck into his greasy burger, that will probably harm him more than the tiny amount of passive smoke inhaled throughout that meal.
One of the beuties about this country is the amount of options available. If you don't like kids, don't go to maccy d's. If you don't like old people, don't go to the tea rooms. If you don't like smoking, don't go to the greasy spoon.


Haha! Yeah whatever. I'll remember in future that my life and the paths I take, where I'm entitled to go etc shall be dictated by smokers and their cancer sticks.

I personally am very strongly against smoking and the taking of drugs and pretty much agree with Meerkat's argument.

 


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My dad used to work for Croydon Council and before cannabis was made illegal he would grow it in greenhouses at Park Hill where it's attractive leaves were used in flower arrangements at the town hall.

 

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Misuse of any kind of drug is dangerous. Cigarettes can cause lung cancer, heart disease and respiratory illness. Alcohol can cause liver disease and acclerates the destruction of brain cells. Both have social implications as well: passive smoking, alcohol-related violence etc.

Yet both these drugs are legal. So WHY is cannabis not? I have not heard one single argument against its use that can't be applied to alcohol and tobacco. For the life of me, I can see no reason why dope is illegal. If it is as harmful as some people would believe, then surely fags and booze should be done away with as well, if the same argument is to be used. One of the reasons has to be that the government raises enormous sums in taxes through the sale of alcohol and tobacco. Also, there are a large number of jobs in the related industries which would be at risk if they were abolished. This, of course, makes this and previous governments' stance all the more hypocritical. In fact, the situation is now even more ridiculous since cigarette advertising has been banned altogether. How crazy is it that advertisements for a perfectly legal product are forbidden? Also, when we joined the EU, the intention was that there should be a free market across the member states. We now find ourselves in the position that the Hitlers of HM Customs and Excise make criminals out of people who buy cigarettes in other countries and bring them back here.

I'm absolutely in favour of the legalisation of cannabis. It is an absolute outrage that I should be criminalised for using a substance that is no better or no worse than other drugs which are freely and readily available. The policy on drugs generally is ridiculous, hypocritical and inconsistent.

LEGALISE IT!

 


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Quote Cucking Funt at 20 Mar 2003 10:42am
LEGALISE IT!


Or BAN ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO!!!

 


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Quote Lee McB at 20 Mar 2003 10:51am

Quote Cucking Funt at 20 Mar 2003 10:42am
LEGALISE IT!


Or BAN ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO!!!


My point exactly.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Indeed - no argument against it!

 

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I think we should go with my suggestion. I always think it's funny seeing people pretending to be drunk, even if they've only drunk half a shandy.

Ban alcohol and tobacco and this country would be a lot funnier and happier place.

 


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Of course, one argument on the comparison you've made between alcohol and cannabis is that people are not directly affected by the intake of alcohol.

People are, however, directly affected by the intake of tobacco and cannabis because the smoke can't be contained.

Yes there may be after effects to alcohol, you metioned alcohol-related violence, but all things can spawn such issues such as the anger at losing a football match...or supporting Palace.

Personally I'd be in full support of banning tobacco, and I'd keep a close eye on alcohol. My main problem lies with it affecting me. I can't be affected if someone nearby is drinking a pint, however I can be affected if someone is smoking a cigarette or a joint nearby.

 


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Quote Lee McB at 20 Mar 2003 10:15am

Quote Eddie_Hitler at 20 Mar 2003 9:29am
MrF made a decision to eat at a place that allows smoking. Don't blame the bloke for sparking up, blame the restaurant owner. If he made a decision to eat at a restaurant that doesen't allow smoking, none of this would be relevant and he could happily tuck into his greasy burger, that will probably harm him more than the tiny amount of passive smoke inhaled throughout that meal.
One of the beuties about this country is the amount of options available. If you don't like kids, don't go to maccy d's. If you don't like old people, don't go to the tea rooms. If you don't like smoking, don't go to the greasy spoon.


Haha! Yeah whatever. I'll remember in future that my life and the paths I take, where I'm entitled to go etc shall be dictated by smokers and their cancer sticks.

I personally am very strongly against smoking and the taking of drugs and pretty much agree with Meerkat's argument.

Yeah good one Lee. Could you just point out where I said you wern't entitled to go to certain places.


 

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Quote Lee McB at 20 Mar 2003 11:01am

Of course, one argument on the comparison you've made between alcohol and cannabis is that people are not directly affected by the intake of alcohol.

Alcohol can wreck families. I have an alcoholic in mine.

Edited by Cucking Funt (20 Mar 2003 11:17am)

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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