Good questions. The reality of our club is that we have a core of about 12,000 - 15,000 supporters as indicated by the first half of our promotion season. The rest are plastics, once we get relegated they will be gone faster than when a cockroach sees the light. That means the present stadium's capacity is probably about right for us, but we need it in a more modern context with possible somme temporary capcity for our forays into the Premiership.

I hear that current proposals are to start with and build over the top of the existing main stand during a closed season. So logically once done those of us who reside tehre will be booted upstairs and then they will do the work on the lower level during the next one. But I have not seen any planning applications around the club so I can't see it being done this closed season.

Edited by Dweeb (21 Apr 2016 9.29am)

Taking the bungy jump since 1964. Never to see John Jackson in a shirt again

Sorry to see Lee Hills go, did we ever see Alex Marrow? We did January 2013

The residents in the area of CPP are not interested, in the slightest, in the welfare of the park. They are opposed to any development that results in thousands of people turning up on a regular basis, taking up parking spaces, leaving litter and pissing in their gardens. Looked at from their angle, they do have a point. NIMBYs they may be, but I'm not sure I'd want it in my back yard either.

The residents surrounding SP are on weaker ground as there was a football stadium there when they moved in (rather like the residents who complain about Heathrow when they knew they were moving next to an airport).

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

No it is not. It is not like a simple case of paying a tradesman to turn up and give a quote. It takes a lot of time and SP is no doubt being very meticulous. For a number or reasons. Whenever anyone submits planning applications it's presented to those surrounding it. A neighbour puts in a new window and they have to apply for it if it's on the side of the house. So don't try and claim this or those around SP are any different.

And nah, can't say I've noticed the supermarket and car park, flats behind the WH end and row of houses built across from The Clifton Arms in the decades I've been going to Selhurst since before you were soiling your training pants in juniors. Do me a favour.

On the subject of the car park. The Sainsbury's car park starts on WH Lane and ends where the main stand ends. The CPFC car park starts there.

Parish is not being meticulous because Sainsbury's are being obstinate or will be driving hard bargains. He could be going about things carefully so that they or residents do not have the opportunity to object to the plans or one of the plans we're going to submit to the council. It is not all black and white.

Again, SP has said before about the significant costs of the professional plans and progressing the plans before even an agreement has been reached and a spade is dug. It costs several million before you get plans agreed.

I hear SP has some drawings of what he'd like to do with the main stand but isn't releasing anything until he's confident it's going to get the go ahead. Again, that project I wouldn't be surprised if it's been altered since knowing we'd have £50million plus of cash to spend on it rather than a 20 year mortgage and at a cost to our abilities in surviving Prem football or gaining promotion from Champ football.

Of course there's planning issues, there is everywhere, but what you were trying to imply was that finances were not an issue, or more specifically, what the real reason was for the delay as there was a plan, which was incidentally a 'concept' idea 6 years ago. If you don't think the delay since 6 years ago has anything to do with Parish/CPFC not having the money and needing a 20 year mortgage in a business that was losing £5mil a year in the Champ and struggling in each season after promotion for a significant time then each to their own.

With the US investment that all changes. No debt from before or with ground building, no interest from previous debt or ground building and the opportunity to maximise the corporate revenue which gives you the revenue you're allowed to increase wages. It is a completely different opportunity and that changed when the US investment was signed off, only 4 months ago.

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COYP

Every club builds a shiny new impressive stadium and people flock to it like moths to a light bulb. There's only 2 clubs where that's failed. Coventry and someone else right down near the bottom of the football league. Everywhere else the overhauls have held attendances higher than before. Where we're in a healthy situation is:

No debt. No repayments. No interest.

Where we will benefit is charging the suit and ties and London companies buying boxes and corporate seats inflated prices whereas we below or to the side of them get on with being real fans.

It's the sign of the times. People are materialistic. As long as people get their affordable little home comforts with mass production it stops them doing things like voting for a different party that might change futile governments.

COYP

Can't be that high or strict. Wigan?

COYP

Ken

I've not heard of an Minimum capacity regulations for the PL.Bournemouth have a capacity of just under 12,000.My understanding is that there has to be a % of stadium capacity which must be allocated to away supporters but I don't have the specific details.