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Lombardos barber 07 Aug 16 2.24pm
Originally posted by bexleydave Exactly the same objections would be lodged as if we were proposing to build a football stadium in the park. Do you seriously think that the local residents would draw a distinction between us moving into a stadium that was already built and a purpose built one. Also, do you really want a stadium with a running track round the pitch? Plus, it's 2026 and it took four years to convert the Olympic Stadium, so you'd be looking at 2030; Harris and Blitzer would have lost interest and pissed off long before that. Finally, it definitely wouldn't be free. First bit is correct. Second bit isn't. Retractable seating can quite easily be built into an original design. The French did it 18 years ago with the St Denis; So if this ever did come to pass (which it won't) and CPFC are involved from the get-go there is no reason to believe that a running track and a conversion would be an issue. Edited by Lombardos barber (07 Aug 2016 2.25pm)
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Originally posted by bexleydave

Exactly the same objections would be lodged as if we were proposing to build a football stadium in the park. Do you seriously think that the local residents would draw a distinction between us moving into a stadium that was already built and a purpose built one. Also, do you really want a stadium with a running track round the pitch? Plus, it's 2026 and it took four years to convert the Olympic Stadium, so you'd be looking at 2030; Harris and Blitzer would have lost interest and pissed off long before that. Finally, it definitely wouldn't be free.

First bit is correct.

Second bit isn't. Retractable seating can quite easily be built into an original design. The French did it 18 years ago with the St Denis; So if this ever did come to pass (which it won't) and CPFC are involved from the get-go there is no reason to believe that a running track and a conversion would be an issue.

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bexleydave Barnehurst 07 Aug 16 2.42pm
Originally posted by Lombardos barber First bit is correct. Second bit isn't. Retractable seating can quite easily be built into an original design. The French did it 18 years ago with the St Denis; So if this ever did come to pass (which it won't) and CPFC are involved from the get-go there is no reason to believe that a running track and a conversion would be an issue. As you quite rightly point out, it's a non-starter. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 07 Aug 16 2.42pm

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

First bit is correct.

Second bit isn't. Retractable seating can quite easily be built into an original design. The French did it 18 years ago with the St Denis; So if this ever did come to pass (which it won't) and CPFC are involved from the get-go there is no reason to believe that a running track and a conversion would be an issue.

As you quite rightly point out, it's a non-starter.

Bexley Dave

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Aug 16 2.53pm
Perhaps councils will start acting like places in the USA do for NFL. They would do literally anything to have an NFL franchise in their area. Imagine how much having a Premier League Club in your borough must be worth to the Council. Always surprises me that the Councils don't recognise this but I guess they are short-sightedly pandering to the NIMBYs. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Aug 16 2.53pm

Perhaps councils will start acting like places in the USA do for NFL. They would do literally anything to have an NFL franchise in their area.
Imagine how much having a Premier League Club in your borough must be worth to the Council.
Always surprises me that the Councils don't recognise this but I guess they are short-sightedly pandering to the NIMBYs.

Red and Blue Army!

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Lombardos barber 07 Aug 16 2.55pm
Originally posted by bexleydave As you quite rightly point out, it's a non-starter. Shame though isn't it? If Crystal Palace was an area in need of redevelopment I'm sure Khan would be entirely supportive. As it is it offers little to the wider community apart from more traffic.
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07 Aug 16 2.55pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

As you quite rightly point out, it's a non-starter.

Shame though isn't it?

If Crystal Palace was an area in need of redevelopment I'm sure Khan would be entirely supportive.

As it is it offers little to the wider community apart from more traffic.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Aug 16 2.55pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Perhaps councils will start acting like places in the USA do for NFL. They would do literally anything to have an NFL franchise in their area. Imagine how much having a Premier League Club in your borough must be worth to the Council. Always surprises me that the Councils don't recognise this but I guess they are short-sightedly pandering to the NIMBYs. Maybe a threat to relocate to an other borough would give them a kick up the backside they need. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Aug 16 2.55pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Maybe a threat to relocate to an other borough would give them a kick up the backside they need.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Aug 16 3.00pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Maybe a threat to relocate to an other borough would give them a kick up the backside they need. I know what you mean but I don't think they would care. Little is made of the benefits of football clubs to local businesses and the community in England. They are not really considered an amenity by those that govern. Football clubs in England are looked at as a hindrance and the cause of anti-social behaviour on a weekend. Despite the fact they are a cash cow for police and local authorities who charge them to the hilt, the council would side with the WI's Knitting Circle and get rid of football supporting oiks altogether if they could. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Aug 16 3.00pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Maybe a threat to relocate to an other borough would give them a kick up the backside they need.

I know what you mean but I don't think they would care. Little is made of the benefits of football clubs to local businesses and the community in England. They are not really considered an amenity by those that govern.
Football clubs in England are looked at as a hindrance and the cause of anti-social behaviour on a weekend.
Despite the fact they are a cash cow for police and local authorities who charge them to the hilt, the council would side with the WI's Knitting Circle and get rid of football supporting oiks altogether if they could.

Red and Blue Army!

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rikz Croydon 07 Aug 16 7.22pm
I reckon they should just give clubs special heritage status then we can do what we want
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Croydon 07 Aug 16 7.22pm

I reckon they should just give clubs special heritage status then we can do what we want

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Petereagle Brockley 07 Aug 16 7.22pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I know what you mean but I don't think they would care. Little is made of the benefits of football clubs to local businesses and the community in England. They are not really considered an amenity by those that govern. Football clubs in England are looked at as a hindrance and the cause of anti-social behaviour on a weekend. Despite the fact they are a cash cow for police and local authorities who charge them to the hilt, the council would side with the WI's Knitting Circle and get rid of football supporting oiks altogether if they could. Its a beautiful dream....but meanwhile let's have an improved and updated Selhurst Park in the next five years please!
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Brockley 07 Aug 16 7.22pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Its a beautiful dream....but meanwhile let's have an improved and updated Selhurst Park in the next five years please!

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Sussex Based Palace Sussex 31 Aug 16 1.30pm
Originally posted by Barcelona Based Fan Extra seats? Bomb site more like How we continue to get a safety certificate is being me? Nice new loo's & hand dryers but still looks terrible Before anyone says stop moaning BBF, I like it over there . My bro has his season ticket on this back row My seat is in front of the box still there at far end of your photo, 92 yrs old now that stand. We are Palace from Selhurst.
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Originally posted by Barcelona Based Fan

Extra seats? Bomb site more like
How we continue to get a safety certificate is being me?
Nice new loo's & hand dryers but still looks terrible
Before anyone says stop moaning BBF, I like it over there .

My bro has his season ticket on this back row

My seat is in front of the box still there at far end of your photo, 92 yrs old now that stand.

We are Palace from Selhurst.

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Username Horsham 31 Aug 16 1.48pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Perhaps councils will start acting like places in the USA do for NFL. They would do literally anything to have an NFL franchise in their area. Imagine how much having a Premier League Club in your borough must be worth to the Council. Always surprises me that the Councils don't recognise this but I guess they are short-sightedly pandering to the NIMBYs. To be fair, as much as I'd like to see Palace have a nice new stadium, the system in the US is a joke. Billionaire owners holding cities to ransom, demanding that they build/improve stadiums or they threaten to take the team elsewhere. It's horrible and makes the West Ham/Man City deals look almost fair by comparison. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 31 Aug 16 1.48pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

To be fair, as much as I'd like to see Palace have a nice new stadium, the system in the US is a joke. Billionaire owners holding cities to ransom, demanding that they build/improve stadiums or they threaten to take the team elsewhere. It's horrible and makes the West Ham/Man City deals look almost fair by comparison.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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sniffer dagenham The narm, Dagennarm 31 Aug 16 2.57pm
Originally posted by Murray's the man The stadium is currently getting a new lick of paint. What more do you want?! Sellotape and sticky back plastic might help improve Selhurst
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Originally posted by Murray's the man

The stadium is currently getting a new lick of paint. What more do you want?!

Sellotape and sticky back plastic might help improve Selhurst

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bexleydave Barnehurst 31 Aug 16 3.00pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Perhaps councils will start acting like places in the USA do for NFL. They would do literally anything to have an NFL franchise in their area. Imagine how much having a Premier League Club in your borough must be worth to the Council. Always surprises me that the Councils don't recognise this but I guess they are short-sightedly pandering to the NIMBYs. Those NIMBYs are the voters that keep them in office. Supporters of the local club rarely make up a significant proportion of the electorate. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 31 Aug 16 3.00pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Perhaps councils will start acting like places in the USA do for NFL. They would do literally anything to have an NFL franchise in their area.
Imagine how much having a Premier League Club in your borough must be worth to the Council.
Always surprises me that the Councils don't recognise this but I guess they are short-sightedly pandering to the NIMBYs.

Those NIMBYs are the voters that keep them in office. Supporters of the local club rarely make up a significant proportion of the electorate.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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