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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 31 Aug 16 4.05pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Maybe a threat to relocate to an other borough would give them a kick up the backside they need.

Isnt Crystal Palace Park in the Borough of Bromley Council. Selhurst Park Bourough of Croydon?

 

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View sniffer dagenham's Profile sniffer dagenham Flag The narm, Dagennarm 01 Sep 16 1.24pm Send a Private Message to sniffer dagenham Add sniffer dagenham as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

Isnt Crystal Palace Park in the Borough of Bromley Council. Selhurst Park Bourough of Croydon?

Along with Southwark, Lambeth, Lewisham and Croydon too

 

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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 01 Sep 16 3.11pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Probably ranted a dozen times in this thread alone but every time I go through CPP (in fact this is a weekly occurrence as I now play football there) I get wound up by the state of the upper half. I mean the bottom half is a park so does what it says on the tin, but the ruins of the original Crystal Palace would probably be safer in Palmyra and the NSC is now basically a private gym. London won't want another world class athletics arena if we were happy to see all the funds directed to Stratford to the detriment of the NSC but it was a state before we even bid for the Olympics which points to certain parties lack of regard for it.

To be honest I'd rather it remain as it is than Seb Coe get in to bed with Sadiq Khan and make a few quid from whatever these 2026 plans are, as would've been the case with the previous options presented around the time CPFC were first factored in proposals the site 2 years ago. It's a disgrace that any development has to be as part of a commercial package. I know someone has to pay for these things, invariably a company of considerably capital but not when it only has business interests at heart.

Maybe Bromley did the right thing in doing nothing or maybe the price wasn't right. Answers on a postcard.

 

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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 01 Sep 16 8.46pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

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Understand it would still have objections from the NIMBYs but if it was something the government was pushing through the objections would have less weight vs the government than our football club alone.

Huge long shot but this would be the only way we'd move to the park. We could even offer to fund the stadium redevelopment and help the government some respect back after the West Ham give away.

Anyway doubt anything will come of this. But hope something does...

The park is in my eyes a perfect solution to offer a beautiful home to the club for future. Even if we had to wait till 2026.

Would be amazing.....

Yes I know I'm just dreaming

 

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View Melbourne Eagle's Profile Melbourne Eagle Flag Melbourne 01 Sep 16 11.55pm Send a Private Message to Melbourne Eagle Add Melbourne Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Perhaps councils will start acting like places in the USA do for NFL. They would do literally anything to have an NFL franchise in their area.
Imagine how much having a Premier League Club in your borough must be worth to the Council.
Always surprises me that the Councils don't recognise this but I guess they are short-sightedly pandering to the NIMBYs.

Theorising from afar, but maybe the council involved would be more interested if our club carried their name - eg "Croydon" - a name that would take their city around the world rather than "Crystal Palace" which doesn't promote the Croydon name directly?

And no, I'm proposing or wanting CPFC to change their name just trying to fathom a reason for their indifference.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 01 Sep 16 11.59pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Melbourne Eagle

Theorising from afar, but maybe the council involved would be more interested if our club carried their name - eg "Croydon" - a name that would take their city around the world rather than "Crystal Palace" which doesn't promote the Croydon name directly?

And no, I'm proposing or wanting CPFC to change their name just trying to fathom a reason for their indifference.

Why would you want to promote that crap hole?

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Sep 16 12.06am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Why would you want to promote that crap hole?

Don't dis my town. Some of us choose to live here even though we have other choices.

 

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No chance of CPP being used for the 2026 Commonwealth Games when there is the Olympic Park elsewhere in the Capital already

City of Liverpool is looking most likely to win the bid for the 2026 Commonwealth games, with Everton being the beneficiaries of the stadium a-la Man City

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 06 Sep 16 5.02pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

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Understand it would still have objections from the NIMBYs but if it was something the government was pushing through the objections would have less weight vs the government than our football club alone.

Huge long shot but this would be the only way we'd move to the park. We could even offer to fund the stadium redevelopment and help the government some respect back after the West Ham give away.

Anyway doubt anything will come of this. But hope something does...

The park is in my eyes a perfect solution to offer a beautiful home to the club for future. Even if we had to wait till 2026.

Would be amazing.....

Yes I know I'm just dreaming

Interesting, I think government backing is the only way the park will happen for CPFC. If as you say Palace offered to build the stadium (LDA cover costs of all other building projects as well as improved transport links)and we get assurances the stadium is ours after the games and we don't have to share it with a rugby club AND no further athletics meetings will be held there so we can rip up the track and put seats in. IF, IF, IF, It would be a great idea.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 06 Sep 16 5.09pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Interesting, I think government backing is the only way the park will happen for CPFC. If as you say Palace offered to build the stadium (LDA cover costs of all other building projects as well as improved transport links)and we get assurances the stadium is ours after the games and we don't have to share it with a rugby club AND no further athletics meetings will be held there so we can rip up the track and put seats in. IF, IF, IF, It would be a great idea.


Meanwhile, back on planet Earth...

 


Bexley Dave

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Originally posted by dorking

No chance of CPP being used for the 2026 Commonwealth Games when there is the Olympic Park elsewhere in the Capital already

City of Liverpool is looking most likely to win the bid for the 2026 Commonwealth games, with Everton being the beneficiaries of the stadium a-la Man City

Could not use the Olympic stadium during Commonwealth games. 1. West Ham will never agree to it (as tenants they would have to).
2. The Commonwealth Games clashes with our football season therefore even if West Ham agreed it wont be available.
CCP is in desperate need of a facelift. CPFC is in desperate need of a stadium. Winning bidding on an event like this could be the answer. Yes of course local residents will fiercely oppose it, they always do. But If the government stepped in and said 'The place is falling apart, this is the only way to fix it without the entire cost coming out the taxpayers pocket, its happening. Live with it or move house' Of course they are not going to say that but if they leave locals in no doubt that is the message It might just work.

 

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Originally posted by est1905

Could not use the Olympic stadium during Commonwealth games. 1. West Ham will never agree to it (as tenants they would have to).
2. The Commonwealth Games clashes with our football season therefore even if West Ham agreed it wont be available.
CCP is in desperate need of a facelift. CPFC is in desperate need of a stadium. Winning bidding on an event like this could be the answer. Yes of course local residents will fiercely oppose it, they always do. But If the government stepped in and said 'The place is falling apart, this is the only way to fix it without the entire cost coming out the taxpayers pocket, its happening. Live with it or move house' Of course they are not going to say that but if they leave locals in no doubt that is the message It might just work.


Let it go, it isn't going to happen and are those US investors really going to sit around for another decade plus whilst we do bugger all about the infrastructure, waiting for some pie-in-the-sky idea to crash and burn?

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

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