Do a bit of research, Nick. It was official US policy to kill civilians. All of them that they came across when engaged. Investigations are ongoing and numerous. I haven't even yet mentioned their complicity in South Korean troops many massacres of thousands of civilians but maybe that is another area that you may find of interest.

I don't understand what you are disputing now? If the 1,000,000 was propaganda then it was propaganda. It doesn't/shouldn't negate the appalling stuff perpetrated by the US which some is now proven to be true as official documents are released.

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He's an organisation you might be interested in joining.

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We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Nah but with your Stalinist/Maoist tendency and age I can see a guest appearance in The Real Marigold Hotel Pyongyang Style looming.

You will love it. Unless Biggins is also there. With his same Kim haircut.

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I did read it, and the centrality of your claim regarding 1,000,000 civilians was plain as day. There is only one person here playing with numbers, and it wasn't me.

So trying to establish the truth and pointing out blatant lies is now 'denying'. Hmm.

The reason I called you out on it, is that your faking the scale of war crimes only serves to undermine establishing the truth of such things. That is a problem, it is something David Irving does, unfortunately, rather effectively. He picks a small truth, then expounds on it to make a bigger point, just as you did. It's still lies.

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If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

They are very different in content and theology, whilst sharing some common roots.

Where they converge is in Monothesism (the belief that there is only one God), and their common roots in Abraham hence the use of the terms "Abrahamic" religions. (Muslims believe that the corpse of Abraham is buried within the Black structure at Mecca)

Where they diverge is in the fundamental tenents of their main characters and theology.

Christianity says that we are saved by Grace, not works. In laymans terms Jesus has paid the price, and accepting him as Lord and saviour will establish right footing and relationship with God. No amount of praying or good deeds can do that, only acceptance of Jesus.

Islam is much more prescriptive and works orientated, ie pray 5 times a day, do this do that, a check list if you will, and then you might get in.

It might be argued that the regimented manner of Islam is in fact the very thing that makes it so attractive to angry men with no structure or purpose.

In addition there is of course the teachings of the 2 central characters.

Jesus' teachings can be summarised as Love God and love People, without reservation or condition.

Mohammed's were much more complicated and dare I say conditional.

As a Christian I would point out though that the likes of ISIS are no more representative of the Muslims I know than the KKK is of me.

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My username has nothing to do with my religious beliefs

I think this is true of fundamentalism in general Islamic or otherwise (see US Christian Militias) as well as Fascism, Neo-Nazism and Communism (in its day). Angry young men, without a purpose or much in the way of prospects do tend to be drawn towards violent 'truth denying' based causes. I think it gives them a sense of worth, identity and belonging, plus an outlet for that frustration and existential anxiety. Plus its much easier than doing some thing constructive to solve your problems, blaming everyone else.

Much like a gang does.

Religion is just the current clothes it dresses up in.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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