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Lyons550 Shirley 13 Sep 17 11.20am
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Badger11 Beckenham 13 Sep 17 12.25pm
I grew up in an over crowded council home on an estate which the local paper described as a slum. We need innovative solutions so yes this could be an option for some people. Its better than sleeping on a friends couch. We need an adult cross party discussion on social housing and I say this as a right wing Tory. Topics I would like to see addressed are: 1) Ban foreign investment unless it is social housing. The UK has become the money laundering centre of the world and too many criminals and businessmen are inflating house prices in the UK. I believe that other European countries are far more restrictive. 2) Restrict through taxation "buy to let", unless you are a social landlord. Again this has inflated house prices. 3) Encourage banks and pension funds through tax breaks to become social landlords. I believe in Austria the majority of housing is owned by the banks. They let them on long term leases which provides them a guaranteed income stream and security for the residents. 4) Allow councils more flexibility to build more housing by letting them borrow. 5) Provide greater security for private tenants regarding rents and lease. Landlords could be encouraged, through tax breaks, to give long term leases with built in rent rises e.g. year 1 rent is �2000pa year 2 it will be �2100 year 3 etc. Anyway that is my manifesto One more point
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Beckenham 13 Sep 17 12.25pm

I grew up in an over crowded council home on an estate which the local paper described as a slum.
We need innovative solutions so yes this could be an option for some people. Its better than sleeping on a friends couch.

We need an adult cross party discussion on social housing and I say this as a right wing Tory. Topics I would like to see addressed are:

1) Ban foreign investment unless it is social housing. The UK has become the money laundering centre of the world and too many criminals and businessmen are inflating house prices in the UK. I believe that other European countries are far more restrictive.
2) Restrict through taxation "buy to let", unless you are a social landlord. Again this has inflated house prices.
3) Encourage banks and pension funds through tax breaks to become social landlords. I believe in Austria the majority of housing is owned by the banks. They let them on long term leases which provides them a guaranteed income stream and security for the residents.
4) Allow councils more flexibility to build more housing by letting them borrow.
5) Provide greater security for private tenants regarding rents and lease. Landlords could be encouraged, through tax breaks, to give long term leases with built in rent rises e.g. year 1 rent is �2000pa year 2 it will be �2100 year 3 etc.

Anyway that is my manifesto

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Beanyboysmd 13 Sep 17 12.39pm
Yep, this is definatly the future we want to give to the next generation. Normalising housing like that can only benefit young people trying to make a living in cities. And of course wait until those places have been up for a few years, they are barely livable brand new, they will be borderline slums in 15 years. Especially when the ropey landlords start buying them up... If we allow this then the phrase 'kids have got it easy nowadays' should be made illegal by 2020...
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Yep, this is definatly the future we want to give to the next generation. Normalising housing like that can only benefit young people trying to make a living in cities.
And of course wait until those places have been up for a few years, they are barely livable brand new, they will be borderline slums in 15 years. Especially when the ropey landlords start buying them up...
If we allow this then the phrase 'kids have got it easy nowadays' should be made illegal by 2020...

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regal_eagle somewhere 13 Sep 17 12.55pm
It's only one step away from the 'cage' communities in Tokyo [Link] At 6'3", it's a NO from me.
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It's only one step away from the 'cage' communities in Tokyo
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At 6'3", it's a NO from me.

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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Sep 17 1.03pm
Yes. If you want the quality of life to dip to a modern low. Too many people arriving in Britain equals less housing space for everyone and higher rents. It's fairly obvious. Awaits some dim wit Lefty to tell me it's all the Tories fault for building too few houses. Funny, because houses are being built all over where I live sadly. More traffic, more noise, more pollution, more pressure on the health service, less countryside... Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Sep 2017 1.04pm)
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Yes. If you want the quality of life to dip to a modern low.

Too many people arriving in Britain equals less housing space for everyone and higher rents. It's fairly obvious.

Awaits some dim wit Lefty to tell me it's all the Tories fault for building too few houses. Funny, because houses are being built all over where I live sadly. More traffic, more noise, more pollution, more pressure on the health service, less countryside...

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Sep 17 1.03pm
Originally posted by Beanyboysmd Yep, this is definatly the future we want to give to the next generation. Normalising housing like that can only benefit young people trying to make a living in cities. And of course wait until those places have been up for a few years, they are barely livable brand new, they will be borderline slums in 15 years. Especially when the ropey landlords start buying them up... If we allow this then the phrase 'kids have got it easy nowadays' should be made illegal by 2020... These will indeed be the dystopian slums of the future if we're not careful. Demand drives price, and whilst initially cheap, these will only ever be slightly cheaper than the absurdly high rental prices for property in London. Its no different than all those tiny one bedroom box houses they built in the 90s that were cheap housing, and then simply became to expensive for most people to buy, because the prices of housing was ridiculous. The solution really lies in controlling the housing market, and property availability and affordability - not in producing just more product into the market. Government cannot keep avoiding making that tough decision, just on the basis of protecting their popularity - the experiment in 'home ownership' has become a total f**king disaster. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

These will indeed be the dystopian slums of the future if we're not careful. Demand drives price, and whilst initially cheap, these will only ever be slightly cheaper than the absurdly high rental prices for property in London.

Its no different than all those tiny one bedroom box houses they built in the 90s that were cheap housing, and then simply became to expensive for most people to buy, because the prices of housing was ridiculous.

The solution really lies in controlling the housing market, and property availability and affordability - not in producing just more product into the market.

Government cannot keep avoiding making that tough decision, just on the basis of protecting their popularity - the experiment in 'home ownership' has become a total f**king disaster.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Sep 17 1.06pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Yes. If you want the quality of life to dip to a modern low. Too many people arriving in Britain equals less housing space for everyone and higher rents. It's fairly obvious. Awaits some dim with Lefty to tell me it's all the Tories fault for buildng too few houses. Funny, because houses are being built all over where I live sadly. More traffic, more noise, more pollution, more pressure on the health service, less countryside... I'd pretty much agree with that. The entire rental market is largely propped up on the basis of migrant workers in the UK. The answer isn't building stier and stier places to live. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Sep 17 1.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes. If you want the quality of life to dip to a modern low.

Too many people arriving in Britain equals less housing space for everyone and higher rents. It's fairly obvious.

Awaits some dim with Lefty to tell me it's all the Tories fault for buildng too few houses. Funny, because houses are being built all over where I live sadly. More traffic, more noise, more pollution, more pressure on the health service, less countryside...

I'd pretty much agree with that. The entire rental market is largely propped up on the basis of migrant workers in the UK. The answer isn't building s**tier and s**tier places to live.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Sep 17 1.21pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I'd pretty much agree with that. The entire rental market is largely propped up on the basis of migrant workers in the UK. The answer isn't building stier and stier places to live. Greedy landlords. Greedy builders. Too many people.
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Hrolf The Ganger

13 Sep 17 1.21pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I'd pretty much agree with that. The entire rental market is largely propped up on the basis of migrant workers in the UK. The answer isn't building s**tier and s**tier places to live.

Greedy landlords. Greedy builders. Too many people.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Sep 17 1.34pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Greedy landlords. Greedy builders. Too many people. Greedy agents, and no regulation or regulating system since the demise of council housing. Rent shouldn't be 60% plus of peoples income after tax. That's a crime against working people. Not to mention that the state pays fortunes in housing benefit on the basis of an out of control market. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Sep 17 1.34pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Greedy landlords. Greedy builders. Too many people.

Greedy agents, and no regulation or regulating system since the demise of council housing. Rent shouldn't be 60% plus of peoples income after tax. That's a crime against working people.

Not to mention that the state pays fortunes in housing benefit on the basis of an out of control market.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stirlingsays Online 13 Sep 17 1.42pm
Originally posted by regal_eagle It's only one step away from the 'cage' communities in Tokyo [Link] At 6'3", it's a NO from me. That's Hong Kong not Tokyo. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Sep 17 1.42pm

Originally posted by regal_eagle

It's only one step away from the 'cage' communities in Tokyo
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At 6'3", it's a NO from me.

That's Hong Kong not Tokyo.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays Online 13 Sep 17 1.45pm
What kind of future is this? Talk about accepting lower standards for the coming generation. We have to find a different ways of tackling the population and housing problems. But that won't happen because essentially....agendas. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays Online

13 Sep 17 1.45pm

What kind of future is this? Talk about accepting lower standards for the coming generation.

We have to find a different ways of tackling the population and housing problems.

But that won't happen because essentially....agendas.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Sep 17 1.56pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Greedy agents, and no regulation or regulating system since the demise of council housing. Rent shouldn't be 60% plus of peoples income after tax. That's a crime against working people. Not to mention that the state pays fortunes in housing benefit on the basis of an out of control market. That is the bottom line.
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Hrolf The Ganger

13 Sep 17 1.56pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Greedy agents, and no regulation or regulating system since the demise of council housing. Rent shouldn't be 60% plus of peoples income after tax. That's a crime against working people.

Not to mention that the state pays fortunes in housing benefit on the basis of an out of control market.

That is the bottom line.

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