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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Dec 17 8.18pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I don't believe they exist. So you deliberately posted out of date data ?
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Originally posted by nickgusset

I don't believe they exist.

So you deliberately posted out of date data ?

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Dec 17 8.19pm
Originally posted by nickgusset So you missed my post that said grooming gangs are Asian and they are cunds. As soon as I point out that people use the grooming gangs argument as an anti Islam argument suddenly I'm an apologist. Total w*f*ery on here at the moment. No no no nick Where do you read anti Islam in my posts anywhere. I'm all for freedom of speech and life. I haven't got an issue with Islam. It's 500 years younger than christianity so has a bit of catching up to do. I am specifically along with this thread talking about Muslim grooming gangs as that's what it's about. I haven't denied that it happens with white people at all. And condemn and hate that as much. Please don't perceive me to be a racist bigot. Yes missed your post you mentioned and fair play that you condemned it. It's not w f at the moment nick. It's healthy and constructive to discuss these issues. If it was briefed like we do on here in the big arena then it might be addressed more. Seems a fear factor to talking about it still.
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The garden of England 14 Dec 17 8.19pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

So you missed my post that said grooming gangs are Asian and they are cunds. As soon as I point out that people use the grooming gangs argument as an anti Islam argument suddenly I'm an apologist.
Total w***f***ery on here at the moment.

No no no nick
Where do you read anti Islam in my posts anywhere.
I'm all for freedom of speech and life.
I haven't got an issue with Islam.
It's 500 years younger than christianity so has a bit of catching up to do.
I am specifically along with this thread talking about Muslim grooming gangs as that's what it's about.
I haven't denied that it happens with white people at all.
And condemn and hate that as much.
Please don't perceive me to be a racist bigot.
Yes missed your post you mentioned and fair play that you condemned it.
It's not w f at the moment nick.
It's healthy and constructive to discuss these issues.
If it was briefed like we do on here in the big arena then it might be addressed more. Seems a fear factor to talking about it still.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 8.27pm
Originally posted by cryrst No no no nick Where do you read anti Islam in my posts anywhere. I'm all for freedom of speech and life. I haven't got an issue with Islam. It's 500 years younger than christianity so has a bit of catching up to do. I am specifically along with this thread talking about Muslim grooming gangs as that's what it's about. I haven't denied that it happens with white people at all. And condemn and hate that as much. Please don't perceive me to be a racist bigot. Yes missed your post you mentioned and fair play that you condemned it. It's not w f at the moment nick. It's healthy and constructive to discuss these issues. If it was briefed like we do on here in the big arena then it might be addressed more. Seems a fear factor to talking about it still. No fear factor, Asians working the night time economy have been involved in grooming gangs, they are cunds, many have been convicted. There may be more. Police haven't got the numbers and I'd imagine that those involved in cases will be very aware they should be investigating all cases, regardless of ethnicity of those accused because of what went on before. Unless someone can tell me different, Asians form a disproportionately large number of people involved in grooming gangs, but when taking all cases of paedophilia and child sex offences, the number of convicted Asians is in line with the Asian demographic of the country at around 7 percent. What more is there to discuss? Other than that the reporting of such crimes in the media disproportionately highlights cases involving Muslims. Does anyone dispute this. And again I ask you to retract your comment that I am an apologist for rapists.
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Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 8.27pm

Originally posted by cryrst

No fear factor, Asians working the night time economy have been involved in grooming gangs, they are cunds, many have been convicted. There may be more. Police haven't got the numbers and I'd imagine that those involved in cases will be very aware they should be investigating all cases, regardless of ethnicity of those accused because of what went on before.

Unless someone can tell me different, Asians form a disproportionately large number of people involved in grooming gangs, but when taking all cases of paedophilia and child sex offences, the number of convicted Asians is in line with the Asian demographic of the country at around 7 percent.

What more is there to discuss? Other than that the reporting of such crimes in the media disproportionately highlights cases involving Muslims. Does anyone dispute this.

And again I ask you to retract your comment that I am an apologist for rapists.

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Dec 17 8.39pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No fear factor, Asians working the night time economy have been involved in grooming gangs, they are cunds, many have been convicted. There may be more. Police haven't got the numbers and I'd imagine that those involved in cases will be very aware they should be investigating all cases, regardless of ethnicity of those accused because of what went on before. Unless someone can tell me different, Asians form a disproportionately large number of people involved in grooming gangs, but when taking all cases of paedophilia and child sex offences, the number of convicted Asians is in line with the Asian demographic of the country at around 7 percent. What more is there to discuss? Other than that the reporting of such crimes in the media disproportionately highlights cases involving Muslims. Does anyone dispute this. And again I ask you to retract your comment that I am an apologist for rapists. Ok nick Let's nip it I didn't mean you were an apologist for rapists and categorically retract that statement. I think because they are gangs and not singular that it is more shocking. No more wrong though I might add. I don't think we are stupid enough to not know it goes on elsewhere.
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The garden of England 14 Dec 17 8.39pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What more is there to discuss? Other than that the reporting of such crimes in the media disproportionately highlights cases involving Muslims. Does anyone dispute this.

And again I ask you to retract your comment that I am an apologist for rapists.

Ok nick
Let's nip it
I didn't mean you were an apologist for rapists and categorically retract that statement.
I think because they are gangs and not singular that it is more shocking. No more wrong though I might add.
I don't think we are stupid enough to not know it goes on elsewhere.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 8.46pm
Originally posted by cryrst Ok nick Let's nip it I didn't mean you were an apologist for rapists and categorically retract that statement. I think because they are gangs and not singular that it is more shocking. No more wrong though I might add. I don't think we are stupid enough to not know it goes on elsewhere. Thanks. A few years old but gets the point I'm trying to get across a lot less clumsily. This is how racism takes root [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 8.46pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Thanks.

A few years old but gets the point I'm trying to get across a lot less clumsily.

This is how racism takes root

[Link]

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Dec 17 8.57pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Thanks. A few years old but gets the point I'm trying to get across a lot less clumsily. This is how racism takes root [Link] It's the guardian nick. Why even whilst trying to understand would I think that's a level neutral view. Cmon nick it's not always racism when you have an opinion about a different race. Sadly a card played too much.
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The garden of England 14 Dec 17 8.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Thanks.

A few years old but gets the point I'm trying to get across a lot less clumsily.

This is how racism takes root

[Link]

It's the guardian nick.
Why even whilst trying to understand would I think that's a level neutral view.
Cmon nick it's not always racism when you have an opinion about a different race.
Sadly a card played too much.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 9.04pm
Originally posted by cryrst It's the guardian nick. Why even whilst trying to understand would I think that's a level neutral view. Cmon nick it's not always racism when you have an opinion about a different race. Sadly a card played too much. Yep the paper that hates Corbyn. We could go through the bias of articles all night because there's no such thing as unbiased, it's always going to have a perspective. The salient point in the article is that crimes by Muslim perpetrators are far more widely reported and politicised than other offenders. Do you concur with this?
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Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 9.04pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Yep the paper that hates Corbyn. We could go through the bias of articles all night because there's no such thing as unbiased, it's always going to have a perspective.

The salient point in the article is that crimes by Muslim perpetrators are far more widely reported and politicised than other offenders.
Do you concur with this?

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Dec 17 9.06pm
Double post w***er Edited by nickgusset (14 Dec 2017 9.07pm)
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Double post w***er

Edited by nickgusset (14 Dec 2017 9.07pm)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 15 Dec 17 8.28am
Originally posted by nickgusset Yep the paper that hates Corbyn. We could go through the bias of articles all night because there's no such thing as unbiased, it's always going to have a perspective. The salient point in the article is that crimes by Muslim perpetrators are far more widely reported and politicised than other offenders. Do you concur with this? Do you have any evidence for this sweeping statement? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 15 Dec 17 8.28am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yep the paper that hates Corbyn. We could go through the bias of articles all night because there's no such thing as unbiased, it's always going to have a perspective.

The salient point in the article is that crimes by Muslim perpetrators are far more widely reported and politicised than other offenders.
Do you concur with this?

Do you have any evidence for this sweeping statement?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Dec 17 9.59am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Do you have any evidence for this sweeping statement? Of course, he doesn't.
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15 Dec 17 9.59am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Do you have any evidence for this sweeping statement?

Of course, he doesn't.

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7mins In the bush 15 Dec 17 1.08pm
This is why facts are so important.
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In the bush 15 Dec 17 1.08pm

This is why facts are so important.

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Dec 17 1.30pm
People like Nazir Afzal appeared more concerned by the Right using it as ammunition than he was by the crimes themselves, surprise surprise.
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15 Dec 17 1.30pm

People like Nazir Afzal appeared more concerned by the Right using it as ammunition than he was by the crimes themselves, surprise surprise.

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