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 Stirlingsays  20 Mar 18 9.00pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
We are officially in George Orwell's 1984. Yep, and he was a socialist who actually cared about free speech.....not like these third rate progressives today. One of his famous quotes, 'If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.' Apparently for some, this should only extends to serious intellectual ideas that aren't offensive to others. If someone makes a bad taste joke I ignore them or I might criticise them....I don't look to send them to prison.....these are awful people.
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| stuckinbristol In the woodwork. 20 Mar 18 9.01pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
We are officially in George Orwell's 1984. No one spied on him, and secretly filmed him making an offensive joke in the privacy of his own home.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 20 Mar 18 9.05pm |
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Originally posted by stuckinbristol
No one spied on him, and secretly filmed him making an offensive joke in the privacy of his own home. Erm... it's about how thought is suppressed under a totalitarian regime. And not sure Orwell could have predicted the internet when the book was written in 1949.
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| JusticeToad Beckenham 20 Mar 18 9.05pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Along similar lines, I'd be interesred to hear why the mods pulled my post today about Tottenham being Jewish, in the thread about Spurs making a derisory £40 millon bid for Zaha. It was a joke ffs. That's all. The Jewish are known for being careful with their money. If some poor little soul was offended by that then they need to either get a life or counselling. Couldn't agree more. These people need to toughen up fast or life is going to be very difficult for them. I wonder how many years of jail time Monty Python would have received for the Life of Brian...some of the best comedy of all time is wildly offensive. And that's OK.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 20 Mar 18 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by JusticeToad
Couldn't agree more. These people need to toughen up fast or life is going to be very difficult for them. I wonder how many years of jail time Monty Python would have received for the Life of Brian...some of the best comedy of all time is wildly offensive. And that's OK. Thats right. Apparently it's alright for Mel Brookes to rip the Jews to pieces whilst prancing about as Hitler. OK he's Jewish himself, but if you're offended by the content, you're offended by the content. You can't pick and choose.
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| Direwolf Lincoln 20 Mar 18 9.33pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Along similar lines, I'd be interesred to hear why the mods pulled my post today about Tottenham being Jewish, in the thread about Spurs making a derisory £40 millon bid for Zaha. It was a joke ffs. That's all. The Jewish are known for being careful with their money. If some poor little soul was offended by that then they need to either get a life or counselling.
I imagine it had something to do with this being a racial stereotype. Edited by Direwolf (20 Mar 2018 9.34pm)
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Ketteridge  Brighton 20 Mar 18 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Being offensive is part of free speech! Comedy is finished if you can't cause offence. In the context, it was CLEARLY a joke and you must know that he wasn't organising a hate campaign against Jews. I mean, did you take the clip literally?? No he wasn't organising a hate campaign and he wasn't tried for that either he was found guilty of sending by "means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character".
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| Stirlingsays 20 Mar 18 9.52pm |
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You might as well talk to the back of your hand with these people. They aren't worth it. Action has to be taken in other ways. There is going to be a demonstration outside the houses of parliament on the 23rd of April, which is the day of the sentencing. It's being organised by the liberalists - UK. I'll provide more details when I know them.
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| Ketteridge Brighton 20 Mar 18 10.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You might as well talk to the back of your hand with these people. They aren't worth it. Action has to be taken in other ways. There is going to be a demonstration outside the houses of parliament on the 23rd of April, which is the day of the sentencing. It's being organised by the liberalists - UK. I'll provide more details when I know them. Sorry if I'm miss reading you here Stirling, but this is a discussion on free speeach, I could add Voltaire to the Orwell quotes 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 20 Mar 18 10.11pm |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
I imagine it had something to do with this being a racial stereotype. Edited by Direwolf (20 Mar 2018 9.34pm) I hope nobody starts a thread about circumcision then
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| elgrande bedford 20 Mar 18 10.20pm |
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I was given tickets to see Jimmy Carr,Jesus I hope any one that is offended easily never goes to him live....nothing is spared. This new lot would sentence him to 10 years hard Labour.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Mar 18 10.38pm |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
Sorry if I'm miss reading you here Stirling, but this is a discussion on free speeach, I could add Voltaire to the Orwell quotes 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it' Ha...the paradox of stating that you agree with the imprisoning of certain people over offence while you quote Voltaire...because you view some more worthy than others!.....By the way that isn't actually a real quote from Voltaire but a summary of his beliefs. I'm not stopping your right to expression....and I wouldn't agree with you being punished for expressing your views. However, your replies thus far seem tone deaf to the points made and just restate your position....what's the point, but ok I'll answer a point you make. You mention comedians you like and the sex pistols and make a point that you can defend them because you could see justified 'commentary' in their offence......Wow...boy that is weak.....You ever considered that far more relevant to them was making money and that shock value enabled it? You viewing their 'offence' as defendable but not others is extremely subjective. It's a point made on very unsteady ground. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2018 10.41pm)
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