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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 01 Jul 18 7.15am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You should assume it's legitimate I reckon.
It's not like an email or phone call asking for details about you or personal info.
£50 is quite low
It's £120 in London, half if paid early.
Appeal and they may cancel it or at least you find out why you got it.

£120 in London! Ouch. Maybe not so bad then.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Jul 18 8.21am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by MrCParrot

£120 in London! Ouch. Maybe not so bad then.

True but any fine hurts.
Sometimes it's for going in bus lanes or yellow box junctions and you don't know till it drops through the door.
I reckon it's for the TFL Xmas party.
And cycle lanes of course.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jul 18 10.48am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Parking TICKETS are only issued by the Police & local Councils on PUBLIC roads/spaces & are enforceable in law.

Parking NOTICE's are issued by Private Company's employed by private land-owners IE: Supermarkets etc & are NOT enforceable in law. They are like a contract, once you acknowlage them you are agreeing to their 'terms n conditions'.


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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 01 Jul 18 6.55pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

it all helps thanks

I was parked in a visitors spot when the office was closed, therefore impossible for me to get permission to park. My bad that I didn't spot the notices.


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Originally posted by eagleman13

Parking TICKETS are only issued by the Police & local Councils on PUBLIC roads/spaces & are enforceable in law.

Parking NOTICE's are issued by Private Company's employed by private land-owners IE: Supermarkets etc & are NOT enforceable in law. They are like a contract, once you acknowlage them you are agreeing to their 'terms n conditions'.


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This pretty much. I got one from before the Aldi went up in coulsdon and the Martin Lewis site said ignore it. I did and the scouse bar stewards gave up writing to me.

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 01 Jul 18 7.58pm

Originally posted by MrCParrot

Albert Goodman, Mary Street House, Mary Street, Taunton TA1 3NW.

Hey, that's my wife's address!

 


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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 01 Jul 18 8.08pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Hey, that's my wife's address!

what! Lorena Bobbit lives there?

 


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.TUX. Flag 01 Jul 18 8.29pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Parking TICKETS are only issued by the Police & local Councils on PUBLIC roads/spaces & are enforceable in law.

Parking NOTICE's are issued by Private Company's employed by private land-owners IE: Supermarkets etc & are NOT enforceable in law. They are like a contract, once you acknowlage them you are agreeing to their 'terms n conditions'.


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This.
As told to me by a Black cab driver (friend) earlier.

 


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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 01 Jul 18 8.52pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

I looked up advice on the Martin Lewis site and have written to them as they are part of an Accredited Trade Association and likely to pursue it. Its a standard letter template.

I'll let you know how it goes

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chateauferret Flag 01 Jul 18 10.35pm

These people are exactly the kind of disgusting scum that make Britain s***e. I don't know anywhere else where a private company thinks it can demand £100 from you for overstaying in a car park by a minute, and there are plenty of cases of people visiting the same car park twice and being treated as if they had been there the whole time between the two visits.

Until lately, the position in England was that their letters were not "fines" or "tickets" but speculative invoices, i.e. demands for money with menaces that you only had to pay if they bullied you enough. Unfortunately the pathetic and feeble Westminster Government has acquiesced into giving these scum not only the right to find out whose car it was but also to force the registered keeper to disclose who was driving it (the ironically-named "Protection of Freedoms Act"
). In addition they have persuaded a court somewhere to agree that £85 is a "reasonable pre-estimate of cost" for overstaying a couple of minutes in an empty car park. Finally they have introduced their own "appeals process" which is supposed to look nice and fair and friendly but which actually serves to divert argument about what they should and shouldn't get away with away from the courts and into an appeals panel which is paid for and therefore controlled by their own industry members. The whole thing is rotten to the core.

Until the cowards that make our laws had been brow-beaten into allowing these scum their licence to print free money, the advice was to simply ignore anything they sent you and never to acknowledge even your existence - there was nothing they could do; their speculative invoices weren't worth the paper they were written on, you weren't obliged to tell them anything and their entitlement to claim costs for trivial parking infringements was restricted to their actual costs, i.e. nothing.

Sadly, in the light of our lawmakers prioritising the bankrolling of party contributors over the rights of ordinary citizens, the only thing you can now do is to write to the manager of whatever shop you were visiting (or to his head office) pointing out that you have been treated in the most disgusting fashion when visiting his shop and will for this reason not only never be doing so again but will also publicise your experience widely. Use twitter and facebook etc. accordingly. In other words, play the one commercial interest (the legitimate one) off against the other (the scum).

If the speculative invoice relates to parking in Scotland then there is as far as I know no case law in a Scottish court that makes it enforceable so just bin the f***ing thing.

Sorry but this is one of the things about the way this country is run that just typifies the machinery that takes money away from people who have earned it with hard work and gives it to people who do nothing useful except sit on their fat arses in their country dachas counting it. It makes me puke.

The subject is ventilated frequently on Pistonheads so you may wish to visit there.

The other thing you can do of course is to make clear to your MP that, whilst you have no problem with paying say an extra fiver if you overstay your parking rules, having our high streets and town centres taken over by these gangsters will serve only to turn them into concrete deserts.

Edited by chateauferret (01 Jul 2018 10.51pm)

 


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jeeagles Flag 01 Jul 18 11.49pm

If it's a private car park, you agree to their terms and conditions by the action of parking.

There's very little you can do to get off.

People have tried and failed through the courts numerous times.

The only defences are that. All the ticket machines weren't working, there were no signs. The signs were hidden. Saying the signs were unlit would be a long shot.

They will either need you to prove it, or lots of other people to complain on the same night for the same reason.

If you lie, they may come back asking for more information. Be very careful as they may be trying to give you enough rope to hang yourself.

You should also ask how long you were observed for.

If it's on-street parking there is more wiggle room, unless you were in a CPZ.

If you are lucky, you may be able to get them to lose interest in chasing you by repeated appeals. But you need to think of a different and valid appeal each time.

Ultimately, you stayed on private land for an hour longer than permit. You aren't in a strong position. Most magic loopholes are normally just people talking bollocks.

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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 02 Jul 18 7.26am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

thanks both. I suspect I'll have to pay the £50.

I'll check out pistonheads Ferret

 


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