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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 08 Nov 18 11.44am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Aren't you a journalist? Do you not get offended that Trump tries to discredit and bring your entire industry into disrepute?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Nov 18 11.50am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Trump is rude....I'll concede that.

However, in the US more states preferred Trump's rudeness to Clinton's falseness.

I know I much prefer Trump to pretty much any other candidate the GoP put up and as the democrats are 'progressives/regressives' nowadays I celebrated the Trump win like no other.

The important point is that Trump.....while being hypocritical doesn't play the media line......he attacks them.

Do I have sympathy for networks like CNN and company.....Hell no....they make money by being the 'resistance'....and making money is more important than telling the truth in the west nowadays.

So as this is where the polarisation has got too.....it's fair game.

And I'll tell you.....s***e's going to get a hell of a lot worse than this.

 


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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 08 Nov 18 11.56am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Aren't you a journalist? Do you not get offended that Trump tries to discredit and bring your entire industry into disrepute?

Listen, respect works both ways. Sarah Huckabee is never rude to Jim Acosta and is always professional. Part of the problem is the press briefings are televised so Acosta always goes for his 'big moment' to grandstand to make great viewing for CNN and their ratings.

Trump refers to the bad journalism and most Americans agree with him on this. The ONLY people who are offended are the left-wing hacks.

Yes I am a journalist which is why I get so pissed off with activism in the industry from so-called impartial journalists and media outlets. Like the BBC and CNN.

How many more examples of the media bias can I give? I could bore you with negative stories on the Democrats the media refuses to publish or positive stories on the Republicans...

As a journalist, I would have posted up a 50-50 split of tweets (for and against) and also posted the so-called doctored clip after independently verifying it. I would have also mentioned Acosta is known as a firebrand in the press corp and has clashed with the WH many times before. It's all about balanced reporting.

Regarding Trump's personality. Yes he gives as good as he gets but it's what voters wanted. For many years, Republicans have had the likes of Mitt Romney and John McCain – who are genuinely nice people – but have had had nasty names and viscous accusations slung at them and got nowhere. They kept losing. Republicans decided to vote in a brash reality TV personality who won't take this nonsense and, more importantly, actually wins.

Edited by Penge Eagle (08 Nov 2018 12.03pm)

 

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This is the USA system of Gerry-mandering by the Republican Party.

'But some were left questioning why Democrats suffered a series of setbacks that prevented the party from picking up even more seats and, perhaps most consequentially, left the US Senate in Republican hands.

Among the most eye-catching was a statistic showing Democrats led Republicans by more than 12 million votes in Senate races, and yet still suffered losses on the night and failed to win a majority of seats in the chamber.

In the presidential vote in 2016 Mrs.Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump.

Of course in the USA everybody is equal, it is just that republicans are more equal than others.


 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

This is the USA system of Gerry-mandering by the Republican Party.

'But some were left questioning why Democrats suffered a series of setbacks that prevented the party from picking up even more seats and, perhaps most consequentially, left the US Senate in Republican hands.

Among the most eye-catching was a statistic showing Democrats led Republicans by more than 12 million votes in Senate races, and yet still suffered losses on the night and failed to win a majority of seats in the chamber.

In the presidential vote in 2016 Mrs.Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump.

Of course in the USA everybody is equal, it is just that republicans are more equal than others.


I can think of only one developed democratic country that elects leaders based upon the number of votes they get.

France.

Trump won despite having the vast majority of media constantly attacking him.

Trump won despite being out spent massively by the democrats.

Trump won because the democrats are too far left to keep enough of the white working class vote.....you know that 'gammon' who you love so much.

The democrats don't deserve to be in power.

I'll say it once again Steely.....you aren't interested in democracy....you support the EU with its unelected commission that can't be voted out.

So spare us.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 12.52pm)

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

This is the USA system of Gerry-mandering by the Republican Party.

'But some were left questioning why Democrats suffered a series of setbacks that prevented the party from picking up even more seats and, perhaps most consequentially, left the US Senate in Republican hands.

Among the most eye-catching was a statistic showing Democrats led Republicans by more than 12 million votes in Senate races, and yet still suffered losses on the night and failed to win a majority of seats in the chamber.

In the presidential vote in 2016 Mrs.Clinton got 3 million more votes than Trump.

Of course in the USA everybody is equal, it is just that republicans are more equal than others.

Why don't you ever do some research before you post?

Google: 'The United States Electoral College' which was established by the United States Constitution.

 

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Clinton only getting 3 million more votes than Trump is a joke considering the demographic reality of America.

Here's the mid term votes broken down by race.

Here's why the future of the US....unless they radically change tact is going to be permanently blue....permanently democrat.....until such time that it's no longer a democracy.....and ignoring the civil war that's probably coming.....as peaceful secession is unlikely to be accepted.

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Democrats got millions more votes – so how did Republicans win the Senate?'

Experts warn of ‘rise of minority rule’ after Democrats’ vote tally beat Republicans’ by more than 12m

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Democrats got millions more votes – so how did Republicans win the Senate?'

Experts warn of ‘rise of minority rule’ after Democrats’ vote tally beat Republicans’ by more than 12m


As you don't appear to want to learn anything for yourself here's a basic education in how to suck eggs with political US demographics.

The democrat's voting base is mainly centred in cities and the coast.....Hmmmm....I wonder why...real head scratcher that one.

The republicans are mainly....but not exclusively centred in rural areas......Hmmmm....I wonder why.

I've already stated how the future is permanently democratic due to demographics.

The democrats have existed within the US electoral system since they started so you waffling on about popular votes is moot.

That's not how the US or indeed how democratic systems work....as I say outside of France.

 


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What gets me is the total lack of respect Trump gets from the media. He is the President for god sake.

He might be unpresidential in his approach but he has never been in office. He has his own individual style.
If you don't respect the man, surely, you still have to respect the office. This is not happening.

No President has ever received the disrespect that Trump has.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Nov 18 3.41pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What gets me is the total lack of respect Trump gets from the media. He is the President for god sake.

He might be unpresidential in his approach but he has never been in office. He has his own individual style.
If you don't respect the man, surely, you still have to respect the office. This is not happening.

No President has ever received the disrespect that Trump has.

Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals.

I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays.

Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door.

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Why don't you ever do some research before you post?

Google: 'The United States Electoral College' which was established by the United States Constitution.


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At the time an Electoral College made sense. There was no radio or TV and papers were very local. The election of a President was a national event. However If you are an uneducated farmer in the NE and one of the candidates is from the other side of the country you would not know anything about him or his politics and would have no easy way of finding out.

The idea of the college was that you voted for a local man of standing in the community. Better a man who travels around the country and may even know of the candidates. You are entrusting this man to familiarise himself with the candidates and vote on your behalf.

Of course as it evolved the parties would push their local man as the guy you should vote for to the college and so vote for their presidential candidate.

There is an argument that the Electoral college should be replaced with a simple majority vote however changing the constitution is notoriously difficult and I suspect that most Americans aren't that bothered.

 


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