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View lefty27's Profile lefty27 Flag ipswich 10 Nov 18 2.22pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I tried to get a response along those lines and im a moron apparently.
But not a blind one!!!

No I called you a moron because you were like Penge accusing me of being apologetic for these people. My point is (let’s strip away the bs) that it’s wrong to prejudice people because of their religion.
Your point is you don’t like Muslims (except the ones that play for palace I presume).

 

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Originally posted by lefty27

No it’s not. I’m not excusing anything. That bloke is disgusting. I’m a disgrace? f*** off. Why can’t you just take people as they come? It doesn’t matter to me what religion, race or nationality someone is it’s how they treat me and other people that matters.
You are a disgrace, your views go against everything this country stands for. Tolerance and respec, you have neither.

Ali Dawar could well be a nice bloke, I don't know him. However, the ideology he speaks of is fuct up. Can you not separate that?

Forcing nine-year-old children to marry 40-year-old men goes against EVERYTHING this country stands for. That is neither tolerant or respectful. You seem to think it is.

I point out intolerance, yet I'm the intolerant one? As for respect, you told me to "f*** off".

Please keep posting, you are digging your own hole!

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Nov 2018 2.32pm)

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Ali Dawar could well be a nice bloke, I don't know him. However, the ideology he speaks of is fuct up. Can you not separate that?

Forcing nine-year-old children to marry 40-year-old men goes against EVERYTHING this country stands for. That is neither tolerant or respectful. You seem to think it is.

Are you serious?! Are you on drugs???? Why would you think he is a nice bloke if he thinks it ok for a 40 year old to marry a 9 year old???

 

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Originally posted by lefty27

Are you serious?! Are you on drugs???? Why would you think he is a nice bloke if he thinks it ok for a 40 year old to marry a 9 year old???

In reference to your point: "It doesn’t matter to me what religion, race or nationality someone is it’s how they treat me and other people that matters."

Do keep up!

 

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Originally posted by lefty27

No I called you a moron because you were like Penge accusing me of being apologetic for these people. My point is (let’s strip away the bs) that it’s wrong to prejudice people because of their religion.
Your point is you don’t like Muslims (except the ones that play for palace I presume).


Opinion polls tell us the differences in views and beliefs between different groups within society.

If you are suggesting that each individual deserves the chance to start with a clean slate before judgement I have some time for that.

If you are suggesting that it's wrong to understand that religious beliefs within certain groups suggests that an individual from that group holds certain viewpoints then sorry....quite frankly you are wrong because the evidence shows otherwise.

And holding viewpoints on a religion in general or a sect within it specifically isn't only informed it's anti ignorant.....again, the polling data is out there.

The Sharia councils exist, the Islamic schools with segregation exist and anti western ideas exist and have been recorded on video.....the terrorism, the FGM, the honour killings, the acid attacks.

It amuses me the amount of 'hate' the left reserves for Robinson....a guy who speaks out against these terrors....when the left sack anyone from their party who does.....Because they love the votes from this socially conservative group....each buttering each other.

Whether or not the left will tolerant minority group rapists or not.....it's their politics and political party which implicitly allowed these gangs to operate and defended them initially when their representatives cried 'racist'.

It's the left which sacked Sarah Champion from her job and called her a Islamophone.

So accusing those from the left of Islamic apologism isn't the half of it......The intent is one thing....what matters is what was the result of their actions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Nov 2018 2.47pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Opinion polls tell us the differences in views and beliefs between different groups within society.

If you are suggesting that each individual deserves the chance to start with a clean slate before judgement I have some time for that.

If you are suggesting that it's wrong to understand that religious beliefs within certain groups suggests that an individual from that group holds certain viewpoints then sorry....quite frankly you are wrong because the evidence shows otherwise.

And holding viewpoints on a religion in general or a sect within it specifically isn't only informed it's anti ignorant.....again, the polling data is out there.

The Sharia councils exist, the Islamic schools with segregation exist and anti western ideas exist and have been recorded on video.....the terrorism, the FGM, the honour killings, the acid attacks.

It amuses me the amount of 'hate' the left reserves for Robinson....a guy who speaks out against these terrors....when the left sack anyone from their party who does.....Because they love the votes from this socially conservative group....each buttering each other.

Whether or not the left will tolerant minority group rapists or not.....it's their politics and political party which implicitly allowed these gangs to operate and defended them initially when their representatives cried 'racist'.

It's the left which sacked Sarah Champion from her job and called her a Islamophone.

So accusing those from the left of Islamic apologism isn't the half of it......The intent is one thing....what matters is what was the result of their actions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Nov 2018 2.47pm)

Finally we agree, that is precisely my point.

 

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Originally posted by lefty27

Finally we agree, that is precisely my point.

I know...very European of us.

 


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Originally posted by lefty27

No I called you a moron because you were like Penge accusing me of being apologetic for these people. My point is (let’s strip away the bs) that it’s wrong to prejudice people because of their religion.
Your point is you don’t like Muslims (except the ones that play for palace I presume).

I never said i dont like muslimss.
If i say i like indigenous english people more am i racist. Catholic christian jedi any faith.
If i am then tell me why.
If you cant answer then there is surely no solving this problem and stereotyping.
If i am not then why not.
Its my choice who i prefer to be around.
Im sure that many other nationalities are like that but only one beleif seems to be like that.
The fact that being muslim is a faith, not a nationality is creating the seperation.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 11 Nov 18 9.44am

Originally posted by cryrst

I never said i dont like muslimss.
If i say i like indigenous english people more am i racist. Catholic christian jedi any faith.
If i am then tell me why.
If you cant answer then there is surely no solving this problem and stereotyping.
If i am not then why not.
Its my choice who i prefer to be around.
Im sure that many other nationalities are like that but only one beleif seems to be like that.
The fact that being muslim is a faith, not a nationality is creating the seperation.

I would say yes.

You are saying you have a general dislike of anyone non British. That's xenophobia

 


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Originally posted by DanH

You realise it's possible to think that the people in these rape gangs are absolute scum that should rot in jail, AND think Tommy is a c*nt don't you?

This thread is bizarre - if you don’t like Robinson, apparently that equates to being a supporter/apologiser for rape gangs.

It’s the most painfully simplistic s*** to read and is entirely why there isn’t any sort of decent debate on here anymore.

On Robinson; take his views on Islam out of the equation entirely, and look at his track record as a bloke - I struggle to see how anyone can’t think he’s an arsehole at best.

Having said that, I agree with a lot of what he says on religion and free speech, to a point, and I think he deserves credit for the initial awareness raising that he did.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (11 Nov 2018 11.04am)

 

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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I would say yes.

You are saying you have a general dislike of anyone non British. That's xenophobia

Call the police, maaaan.

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I would say yes.

You are saying you have a general dislike of anyone non British. That's xenophobia


No, that's not what he said.

He said he likes his own more. That's not saying he automatically 'dislikes' foreigners. One foreigner is not the same as another.

I also, as a rule, prefer to be around people who identify as English...and by extension the home countries. That doesn't mean that I don't like and in some cases admire people who aren't English/British.....God, there are so many non English people that I think are wonderful I couldn't begin.

That's not the argument.

The left like simplistic caricatures of their opposition.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2018 12.27pm)

 


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