Poverty in the UK
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 Badger11  Beckenham 16 Nov 18 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
This is what we should be getting angry about 14m people officially live in Poverty That's Britain in 2018, absolutely shameful But as long as we keep blaming immigration for all our problems it will continue I have a couple of points: 2. He says that poverty in the UK is political. Well you can say that about any country. How you treat people is always political it shouldn't be but it is. Any country can spend more on the poor and less on something else so that is hardly a revelation. 3. Do we know if his numbers of people in poverty are generally accepted as accurate? Having grown up very poor I do have a problem with how the UK measures poverty. A discussion for another time, for now I am interested in is he in the ballpark? 4. With all of the above in mind he may be 100% right however the UN is not an independent body as it likes to claim. A so called independent UN panel agreed that the UK was violating Juliane Assange's right and keeping him prisoner in the Embassy. I suspect most of us thought that was a crock and showed the UN expert panel to be idiots.
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| Midlands Eagle 16 Nov 18 7.18pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
In 1970 a young bloke could leave school, get a job and buy a house. Often with a stay-at-home wife. Sounds like my life. I rented for about three years then bought a house when in my early twenties - also with a stay at home wife
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 18 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
This is what we should be getting angry about 14m people officially live in Poverty That's Britain in 2018, absolutely shameful But as long as we keep blaming immigration for all our problems it will continue But immigration is good for Britain. We should all be rich.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Nov 18 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Sounds like my life. I rented for about three years then bought a house when in my early twenties - also with a stay at home wife with just a basic schooling ? the 1970s were an idyll compared to now. now its all iPhones and dogsh.1t
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| dannyboy1978 16 Nov 18 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
forget about wages. Housing has become beyond the reach of many due to overly abundant demand (immigration). In 1970 a young bloke could leave school, get a job and buy a house. Often with a stay-at-home wife. 2018 - stay on in education for many more years, stay-at-home wife ? less likely. Either rent forever or get up to your eyeballs in mortgage debt. overcrowding ? There are now ghetto houses with dozens of people living in each. And London has got so expensive for the middle classes that they are voting with their feet. And your choice is to live expensive where there are jobs or to live cheap in a dump like Stoke-on-Trent. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Nov 2018 7.19pm) Wow, that really hits home. Good post
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| Stirlingsays 16 Nov 18 7.55pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
forget about wages. Housing has become beyond the reach of many due to overly abundant demand (immigration). In 1970 a young bloke could leave school, get a job and buy a house. Often with a stay-at-home wife. 2018 - stay on in education for many more years, stay-at-home wife ? less likely. Either rent forever or get up to your eyeballs in mortgage debt. overcrowding ? There are now ghetto houses with dozens of people living in each. And London has got so expensive for the middle classes that they are voting with their feet. And your choice is to live expensive where there are jobs or to live cheap in a dump like Stoke-on-Trent. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Nov 2018 7.19pm) Good post.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 16 Nov 18 7.59pm |
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We should have put this behind us years ago. I can echo posters with memories of the 1970's. The old association with sloth and unemployment is just not valid, the new poor are all in work. It is 2018 for chrissake why is this not dealt with, together with homelessness and other ills. It probably costs more not to deal with them. In the 1970s we had a labour government much criticised but we were a much more balanced and responsible society.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Nov 18 8.02pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
We should have put this behind us years ago. I can echo posters with memories of the 1970's. The old association with sloth and unemployment is just not valid, the new poor are all in work. It is 2018 for chrissake why is this not dealt with, together with homelessness and other ills. It probably costs more not to deal with them. In the 1970s we had a labour government much criticised but we were a much more balanced and responsible society. Unless you needed your dead buried.....the unions were like the far left today.....loonies ruining the country.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 18 8.09pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
We should have put this behind us years ago. I can echo posters with memories of the 1970's. The old association with sloth and unemployment is just not valid, the new poor are all in work. It is 2018 for chrissake why is this not dealt with, together with homelessness and other ills. It probably costs more not to deal with them. In the 1970s we had a labour government much criticised but we were a much more balanced and responsible society. But I thought we were all racists in the 70's. Make up your mind. Or were you talking about another 1970's?
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 16 Nov 18 8.23pm |
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the 1970s the hire-and-fire culture had not set in. So relative job security. simple technology meant many jobs required the intellect of a gnat. Peter Cook & Dudley Moore could say 'c..nt' in public without getting lynched by lefties. comedy was funny. no obesity epidemic....look at all the old photos. An entire football stadium full of skinny feckers. intellectuals on telly, in the pub, doing odd jobs, moderate drinking mostly everywhere 2018 queues of traffic, public transport nightmares, queues for seemingly everything. dodgy highly processed food everywhere turning us into americans. thicks on telly, thicks in parliament, thicks being worshipped for their opinions, binge drinkers fighting, p1ssing and puking everywhere. Especially the girls.
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Pussay Patrol  16 Nov 18 8.25pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Unless you needed your dead buried.....the unions were like the far left today.....loonies ruining the country. Conservatives been in power since 2010 presiding over a country in poverty
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| Stirlingsays 16 Nov 18 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Conservatives been in power since 2010 presiding over a country in poverty
I could stick a label on you with a name on it.......it doesn't make you that name.
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