Cool....though I tend to think that incompetence is always the first port of call over mischief.

There I go....I couldn't get a sentence out without mentioning alcohol.....back to the port.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Was Mick Jagger a 'predatory heterosexual' who preyed on young girls?

I'm willing to see the evidence on Spacey but I'm rather cynical about it all.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Geezer is bang guilty, defo casting couch stuff going on at a minimum along with sex pesting the understudy.

Then again Hollywood has gone a bit Salem witch trials since Weinstein. Everyone is getting thrown on the pyre, classic deflection.

They're all at it.

I saw a documentary about 70's rock stars and famous groupies, as an aside several massive British ones were mentioned as having 13yo girlfriends. This was confirmed by other groupies including some of the underage girls. It was not considered as a big deal at the time and these women were not claiming to be victims.

I would imagine if they remade that program today it would have a different slant.

I know someone who worked for the BBC in that era if you were a pop star Top of the Pops was the show to get on you could have your pick as Jimmy Saville knew.

So it is quite possible that many stars of that era were at it probably because they didn't bother to ask the girls their ages.

This is not a defence of their behaviour more an observation of that period.

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Just had another thought about how public perception is very different from the sixties and seventies.

Take a look at the Beatles in A Hard Day's Night and especially the train scene coming down from Liverpool. The Beatles (twenty something men) end up chatting up a group of schoolgirls. I remember seeing the film in the cinema and not giving it a thought today that scene looks creepy.

Now of course it is fiction but that movie was made as a U certificate for a wider audience as possible which I think indicates that no one involved saw anything wrong with it.

It would not happen now.

One more point

Yup the good old days when everything was in black and white TV finished at midnight and we stood up for God Save the Queen in the cinema.

Actually I don't miss those days and whilst I grate my teeth at the younger generation I would rather a country where people challenge their "betters" then one where we accept the decisions because the person wears a white coat so they most know what they are doing.

Right, football time enough nostalgia.

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