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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jan 19 7.46pm
Originally posted by inflikted Not that I particularly want to sell him, but if Dortmund are offering Ł60m+ for him then I'd rather he go to another country's top side, than go to a rival Premier League team and have him run rings around us in the league. Plus, better to sell sooner rather than later, so we have a few days to reinvest the money in a new striker that actually scores goals. One more try. So we sell Zaha for Ł60 million. What then? If we were a big club we might spend that 60 million on a proper replacement but we aren't, so we won't be able to attract a player of that quality. So we have this Ł60 million and everyone knows it and all we can do is buy some more average players at inflated prices who won't make the team any better. So why was it a good idea to sell Zaha with years left on his contract again? To summarise. Relegation could cost us hundreds of millions and the Ł60 million we get for Wilf will buy us three more Jeffrey Shlupps. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Jan 2019 7.53pm)
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Originally posted by inflikted

Not that I particularly *want* to sell him, but if Dortmund are offering Ł60m+ for him then I'd rather he go to another country's top side, than go to a rival Premier League team and have him run rings around us in the league. Plus, better to sell sooner rather than later, so we have a few days to reinvest the money in a new striker that actually scores goals.

One more try.

So we sell Zaha for Ł60 million. What then?

If we were a big club we might spend that 60 million on a proper replacement but we aren't, so we won't be able to attract a player of that quality.

So we have this Ł60 million and everyone knows it and all we can do is buy some more average players at inflated prices who won't make the team any better.

So why was it a good idea to sell Zaha with years left on his contract again?

To summarise. Relegation could cost us hundreds of millions and the Ł60 million we get for Wilf will buy us three more Jeffrey Shlupps.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Jan 2019 7.53pm)

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southnorwoodhill 25 Jan 19 7.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger One more try. So we sell Zaha for Ł60 million. What then? If we were a big club we might spend that 60 million on a proper replacement but we aren't, so we won't be able to attract a player of that quality. So we have this Ł60 million and everyone knows it and all we can do is buy some more average players at inflated prices who won't make the team any better. So why was it a good idea to sell Zaha with years left on his contract again? To summarise. Relegation could cost us hundreds of millions and the &60 million we get for Wilf will buy us three more Jeffrey Shlupps. The voice of wisdom. If the player wants to go, let him go and get the best price. But where has Wilf said he wants to go? All bulls*** media speculation churned up by who?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

One more try.

So we sell Zaha for Ł60 million. What then?

If we were a big club we might spend that 60 million on a proper replacement but we aren't, so we won't be able to attract a player of that quality.

So we have this Ł60 million and everyone knows it and all we can do is buy some more average players at inflated prices who won't make the team any better.

So why was it a good idea to sell Zaha with years left on his contract again?

To summarise. Relegation could cost us hundreds of millions and the &60 million we get for Wilf will buy us three more Jeffrey Shlupps.

The voice of wisdom. If the player wants to go, let him go and get the best price. But where has Wilf said he wants to go? All bulls*** media speculation churned up by who?

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jan 19 7.56pm
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill The voice of wisdom. If the player wants to go, let him go and get the best price. But where has Wilf said he wants to go? All bulls*** media speculation churned up by who? Let him go? He just signed a long contract. The phrase cake and eat it springs to mind. But you are right. SKY have been spinning this story and they even tried to link him with Spurs for good measure. SKY are laughable as usual. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Jan 2019 7.56pm)
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25 Jan 19 7.56pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

The voice of wisdom. If the player wants to go, let him go and get the best price. But where has Wilf said he wants to go? All bulls*** media speculation churned up by who?

Let him go?

He just signed a long contract.

The phrase cake and eat it springs to mind.

But you are right. SKY have been spinning this story and they even tried to link him with Spurs for good measure.

SKY are laughable as usual.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Jan 2019 7.56pm)

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 25 Jan 19 8.09pm
im not naive enough to realise there wont be serious interest in wilf...but hes defo here til the summer. i cant see SP selling for anything under Ł75m and thats about right, proven player in the strongest league in the world. if he does go, its ‘how’ we invest that money that defines is as a club for years to come ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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im not naive enough to realise there wont be serious interest in wilf...but hes defo here til the summer.

i cant see SP selling for anything under Ł75m and thats about right, proven player in the strongest league in the world.

if he does go, its ‘how’ we invest that money that defines is as a club for years to come

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Casual Orpington 25 Jan 19 8.12pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Let him go? He just signed a long contract. The phrase cake and eat it springs to mind. But you are right. SKY have been spinning this story and they even tried to link him with Spurs for good measure. SKY are laughable as usual. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Jan 2019 7.56pm) Troy Deeney (you know the sh*t player , that’s nothing but a thug ) he’s played 40 top flight games less than Zaha and has 5 more goals/assists. I like Zaha , but he isn’t the ‘must have star’ that all the other clubs want. He’s decent for us , but saying that he should be going for 70-80 million and should be a main player in a champions league team is fantasy I am afraid. Good winger , but I’d take Salako all day , beat a player and put the ball on the forwards head? Or beat a player, check back, take him on again and again, finally cross it once all the defence is set ?
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Orpington 25 Jan 19 8.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Let him go?

He just signed a long contract.

The phrase cake and eat it springs to mind.

But you are right. SKY have been spinning this story and they even tried to link him with Spurs for good measure.

SKY are laughable as usual.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Jan 2019 7.56pm)

Troy Deeney (you know the sh*t player , that’s nothing but a thug ) he’s played 40 top flight games less than Zaha and has 5 more goals/assists.
I like Zaha , but he isn’t the ‘must have star’ that all the other clubs want. He’s decent for us , but saying that he should be going for 70-80 million and should be a main player in a champions league team is fantasy I am afraid.
Good winger , but I’d take Salako all day , beat a player and put the ball on the forwards head? Or beat a player, check back, take him on again and again, finally cross it once all the defence is set ?

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jan 19 8.20pm
Originally posted by Casual Troy Deeney (you know the sht player , that’s nothing but a thug ) he’s played 40 top flight games less than Zaha and has 5 more goals/assists. I like Zaha , but he isn’t the ‘must have star’ that all the other clubs want. He’s decent for us , but saying that he should be going for 70-80 million and should be a main player in a champions league team is fantasy I am afraid. Good winger , but I’d take Salako all day* , beat a player and put the ball on the forwards head? Or beat a player, check back, take him on again and again, finally cross it once all the defence is set ? Salako was great before he broke his leg but that was a different era when Geoff Thomas could play for England. I think you underestimate Zaha's qualities. He might not a prolific goalscorer and his crossing is often thoughtless, but he occupies two and three defenders at a time which is priceless. He changes the dynamic of a game by easing pressure on our defence and making the opposition less inclined to commit.
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Originally posted by Casual

Troy Deeney (you know the sh*t player , that’s nothing but a thug ) he’s played 40 top flight games less than Zaha and has 5 more goals/assists.
I like Zaha , but he isn’t the ‘must have star’ that all the other clubs want. He’s decent for us , but saying that he should be going for 70-80 million and should be a main player in a champions league team is fantasy I am afraid.
Good winger , but I’d take Salako all day , beat a player and put the ball on the forwards head? Or beat a player, check back, take him on again and again, finally cross it once all the defence is set ?

Salako was great before he broke his leg but that was a different era when Geoff Thomas could play for England.

I think you underestimate Zaha's qualities. He might not a prolific goalscorer and his crossing is often thoughtless, but he occupies two and three defenders at a time which is priceless. He changes the dynamic of a game by easing pressure on our defence and making the opposition less inclined to commit.

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Casual Orpington 25 Jan 19 8.31pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Salako was great before he broke his leg but that was a different era when Geoff Thomas could play for England. I think you underestimate Zaha's qualities. He might not a prolific goalscorer and his crossing is often thoughtless, but he occupies two and three defenders at a time which is priceless. He changes the dynamic of a game by easing pressure on our defence and making the opposition less inclined to commit. Your last sentence isn’t worth 60-80 million. I like zaha , but we’ve got 2 wingers , one wants to cut inside and shoot, the other one wants to beat the same player 3 times. Neither are going to help a decent Center forward , Salako would cross the ball early , when the defence were trying to get back in position. If Zaha has the commitment and was up for every game , and bolloc*s of Geoff Thomas or Michael Hughes he would be a world beater, but he hasn’t, so he isn’t . Good player , but no Ian Wright.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Salako was great before he broke his leg but that was a different era when Geoff Thomas could play for England.

Your last sentence isn’t worth 60-80 million. I like zaha , but we’ve got 2 wingers , one wants to cut inside and shoot, the other one wants to beat the same player 3 times. Neither are going to help a decent Center forward , Salako would cross the ball early , when the defence were trying to get back in position.
If Zaha has the commitment and was up for every game , and bolloc*s of Geoff Thomas or Michael Hughes he would be a world beater, but he hasn’t, so he isn’t .
Good player , but no Ian Wright.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jan 19 9.33pm
Originally posted by Casual Your last sentence isn’t worth 60-80 million. I like zaha , but we’ve got 2 wingers , one wants to cut inside and shoot, the other one wants to beat the same player 3 times. Neither are going to help a decent Center forward , Salako would cross the ball early , when the defence were trying to get back in position. If Zaha has the commitment and was up for every game , and bolloc*s of Geoff Thomas or Michael Hughes he would be a world beater, but he hasn’t, so he isn’t . Good player , but no Ian Wright. You'll see what it's worth if he's sold.
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25 Jan 19 9.33pm

Originally posted by Casual

Your last sentence isn’t worth 60-80 million. I like zaha , but we’ve got 2 wingers , one wants to cut inside and shoot, the other one wants to beat the same player 3 times. Neither are going to help a decent Center forward , Salako would cross the ball early , when the defence were trying to get back in position.
If Zaha has the commitment and was up for every game , and bolloc*s of Geoff Thomas or Michael Hughes he would be a world beater, but he hasn’t, so he isn’t .
Good player , but no Ian Wright.

You'll see what it's worth if he's sold.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 25 Jan 19 9.40pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Salako was great before he broke his leg but that was a different era when Geoff Thomas could play for England. I think you underestimate Zaha's qualities. He might not a prolific goalscorer and his crossing is often thoughtless, but he occupies two and three defenders at a time which is priceless. He changes the dynamic of a game by easing pressure on our defence and making the opposition less inclined to commit. remember salako’s comebake game v stoke? simply amazing...the sheer anger being brought out on a pitch. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 25 Jan 19 9.40pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Salako was great before he broke his leg but that was a different era when Geoff Thomas could play for England.

remember salako’s comebake game
v stoke?

simply amazing...the sheer anger being brought out on a pitch.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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southnorwoodhill 25 Jan 19 9.42pm
Got to agree with Casual. And Salako could cross a fantastic ball, something that Wilf can't. Saying that, it would be folly to let him go, because he has other set skills. Needs Wickham or Benteke, he can't do it all on his own, and I think this is the burden that is upon him at the moment. Because he is our most skilful player either he or the management have taken it upon themselves to give him the load. Share the load and watch hime go
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Got to agree with Casual. And Salako could cross a fantastic ball, something that Wilf can't. Saying that, it would be folly to let him go, because he has other set skills.
Needs Wickham or Benteke, he can't do it all on his own, and I think this is the burden that is upon him at the moment. Because he is our most skilful player either he or the management have taken it upon themselves to give him the load.
Share the load and watch hime go

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Casual Orpington 25 Jan 19 9.50pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle remember salako’s comebake game v stoke? simply amazing...the sheer anger being brought out on a pitch. No nonsense winger , playing for the team ,to supply the forwards , not for himself ,and a great shot , best I’ve seen , I’m only 41 though. Like Zaha though. Edited by Casual (25 Jan 2019 9.53pm)
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

remember salako’s comebake game
v stoke?

simply amazing...the sheer anger being brought out on a pitch.

No nonsense winger , playing for the team ,to supply the forwards , not for himself ,and a great shot , best I’ve seen , I’m only 41 though.
Like Zaha though.

Edited by Casual (25 Jan 2019 9.53pm)

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 25 Jan 19 9.56pm
Originally posted by Casual No nonsense winger , playing for the team ,to supply the forwards , not for himself ,and a great shot , best I’ve seen , I’m only 41 though. Like Zaha though. Edited by Casual (25 Jan 2019 9.53pm) im 36 zaha miles better. johnny salad was great, but no wilf. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Originally posted by Casual

No nonsense winger , playing for the team ,to supply the forwards , not for himself ,and a great shot , best I’ve seen , I’m only 41 though.
Like Zaha though.

Edited by Casual (25 Jan 2019 9.53pm)

im 36

zaha miles better.

johnny salad was great, but no wilf.

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