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ChrisGC  Wantage 10 Feb 19 1.04pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Too often we rush to conclusions that people are failing to do their jobs when they are actually working with restrictions placed upon them. I am not for one moment suggesting anything more than that we probably don't know everything. What a terrible attempt to crawl out of the hole you've dug. What restrictions? Shagging kids and gang rape is illegal, there is no restrictions against investigating and making arrests for violations of these very basic points of law. Long term integration of foreign cultures, what the f*** is that about? It's not ok to have sex with children or rape people and that "culture" will never be integrated into ours, nor can it be educated out. Anyway, isn't it a bit racist to assume that this kind of thing is just a cultural practice? I know plenty of Muslims that wouldn't dream of raping anyone.
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 Stirlingsays 10 Feb 19 1.10pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dannyboy1978
They can get louder mega phones and scream Nazi louder, that could work for a bit longer.
Most people go to work and they trust that what's happening in the political environment is sensible and stable. I kind of feel a bit sorry for them.....because it should be sensible and it should be stable.....But the truth is the future isn't going to be like that.
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| elgrande bedford 10 Feb 19 1.15pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
What a terrible attempt to crawl out of the hole you've dug. What restrictions? Shagging kids and gang rape is illegal, there is no restrictions against investigating and making arrests for violations of these very basic points of law. Long term integration of foreign cultures, what the f*** is that about? It's not ok to have sex with children or rape people and that "culture" will never be integrated into ours, nor can it be educated out. Anyway, isn't it a bit racist to assume that this kind of thing is just a cultural practice? I know plenty of Muslims that wouldn't dream of raping anyone. Great post
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| Matov 10 Feb 19 1.29pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle That video from TR is interesting. Not his biggest fan and have always been rather wary of him, never truly understanding or believing his motives. Too many unanswered questions and whilst I believe he has been unfairly vilified, I am still cautious. But if he has done what he has claimed, and effectively turned the tables on the Panorama team which is a flagship BBC show then kudos to him. However, and here perhaps I am being a little paranoid, being able to play those people at there own game requires a bit more than the usual schtick of Tommoy Robinson against the world. That needs planning, strategy, money and a whole lot more. Looking forward to what he has to expose and will certainly not feel any displeasure at the BBC being shown up but it will merely confirm my suspicions that TR moves in some dubious circles.
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| dannyboy1978 10 Feb 19 1.49pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle The more I look at that video of the bearded bloke I think they could both have cameras spying on each other. I think the bearded bloke is trying to use that language to make the other guy use similar so that they can edit it and put him in a bad light for their story. They can't now go about saying we were going to edit it as that makes a mockery of panorama. The BBC have so f***ed up
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| Matov 10 Feb 19 2.33pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dannyboy1978
The more I look at that video of the bearded bloke I think they could both have cameras spying on each other. I think the bearded bloke is trying to use that language to make the other guy use similar so that they can edit it and put him in a bad light for their story. They can't now go about saying we were going to edit it as that makes a mockery of panorama. The BBC have so f***ed up It is going to be interesting. For me it was the comments about having the 'Hope not Hate' people in on the interviews that roused my interest. If the BBC are meant to be impartial, why would they have a third party involved, especially one with a political agenda?
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 Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 8.11pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Oh I see....'inflammatory speeches, unlawful behaviour, intimidation or incitement to violence'.......So you were against the tactics employed by the suffragette movement then.....against the ANC led by Mandela. Or rather you are quite happy when it's a political movement you agree with.....but unacceptable from one you don't. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 12.35pm) Are you serious? I doubt that too many would see any equivalence between Robinson and the suffragettes or Mandela, or the tactics they used. Some protests command general respect, once understood, provided they are conducted with dignity and use cogent argument. some don't.
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| dannyboy1978 10 Feb 19 8.19pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle I'm only partially through this but if you get a chance have a look from 6.20mins
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 8.21pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC
What a terrible attempt to crawl out of the hole you've dug. What restrictions? Shagging kids and gang rape is illegal, there is no restrictions against investigating and making arrests for violations of these very basic points of law. Long term integration of foreign cultures, what the f*** is that about? It's not ok to have sex with children or rape people and that "culture" will never be integrated into ours, nor can it be educated out. Anyway, isn't it a bit racist to assume that this kind of thing is just a cultural practice? I know plenty of Muslims that wouldn't dream of raping anyone. You completely either misunderstand or misrepresent what I said. Of course it's illegal and not OK to have sex with children or commit rape. That's not what is at issue. No culture that accepts such things could ever become integrated with ours. The clue is in your last paragraph. Most Muslims are as appalled by such things as the rest of us and it is by working within the community rather than by confronting it that seems to have been the strategy. You are free to disagree, but are you an expert on how to handle these things or just another upset Sun reader?
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| Stirlingsays 10 Feb 19 8.33pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You completely either misunderstand or misrepresent what I said. Of course it's illegal and not OK to have sex with children or commit rape. That's not what is at issue. No culture that accepts such things could ever become integrated with ours. The clue is in your last paragraph. Most Muslims are as appalled by such things as the rest of us and it is by working within the community rather than by confronting it that seems to have been the strategy. You are free to disagree, but are you an expert on how to handle these things or just another upset Sun reader?
This is the same issue.......Their prophet had a very underage wife and he is regarded as the perfect man....Now this can be seen within the context of the time but these realities feed into cultural attitudes. I think it's fair to say that most Muslims don't approve of these grooming gangs. But it would also be deluded to think that the culture within all these communities is western and that the attitudes are the same at the same percentages. There are reasons that none of these girls were Muslims.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 10 Feb 19 8.53pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you serious? I doubt that too many would see any equivalence between Robinson and the suffragettes or Mandela, or the tactics they used. Some protests command general respect, once understood, provided they are conducted with dignity and use cogent argument. some don't.
Mandella was a terrorist before he was an international hero and since everyone gets re evaluated every 30 years or so, who knows where he will end up. I expect he is safe in the current White guilt world for now despite his wife. The problems begin when people start to actually believe that anyone is or was ever perfect. Fairly dodgy people can do good things ad vise versa.
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| Stirlingsays 10 Feb 19 9.06pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you serious? I doubt that too many would see any equivalence between Robinson and the suffragettes or Mandela, or the tactics they used. Some protests command general respect, once understood, provided they are conducted with dignity and use cogent argument. some don't. You listed attributes by Robinson as an activist that you said made him a....what was it...rabble rouser. Well, I've revealed that actually it isn't those behaviours that annoy you but the politics. The suffragettes actually organisated violence and examples like Mandela were actual terrorists of their time (self described) (At his trial, Mandela pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence and had also led a bombing campaign and has various numbers of deaths attributed to him). But no....you show that it's the politics, not the behaviours....So please, don't pretend otherwise. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 9.07pm)
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