As a teenager in Streatham circa 1960 often got pulled up by the police when wandering around with a few mates in the evenings.
Got stopped and had to turn out your pockets. Never got nicked though and we always behaved well to the coppers. In those days if you gave them to much lip you were quite likely to end up with a fat one yourself!

So increased violent crime has nothing to do with immigration?

Yes or no.

You don’t hear of many one parent mothers who have been knocked up by this filth going out and slashing someone up with a 12 inch blade. It’s usually someone who wants quicker cash or to belong to a group for various reasons.

COYP

I have thought for some time that the black community need to stand up and take responsibility for this.

I’ve just heard the melanie Philips from the Daily Mail Daily Mail on the sky news press review go further and explain a black community in America took ownership of the problem with the white community rather than positioning itself against. They teamed up with the police and authorities and got all the drug dealers, drugs, guns, knives and everyone swept up and problems under control. It was their children being killed or in danger of being killed.

Those communities here aren’t doing enough or anything and are instead relying on former gang members because they’re the only ones these sheep or those nobody else to be friends with if they live in the really sh1t estates, listen to. How many times do you hear of what a nice boy the gang member was who was chased into a cul-de-sac and stabbed 20 times because his gang did similar?

There really is a lack of discipline and respect when young black boys get together in groups. The last time I got a bus years ago I noticed how these individuals who wouldn’t say a word on their own felt so powerful in a group. Loud and unruly.

There does need to be more police. I’ve seen some pretty shocking cheeky driving because there’s never any police around. But more police won’t stop a kid being stabbed by the garages or stairwell in a council estate, although more police would help round them all up to show the next wave of sheep it’s a worthless lifestyle choice, if there’s any gang members left by then to recruit them or to look good in their new nike air max. God it’s so pathetic.

Think of the riots. They weren’t going out looting Tesco. It was Foot Locker and Curry’s.

No morals, a different definition of respect, and not much chance of a solution with the under 13’s or whatever age if they don’t sweep up the current gangs and perpetrators.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Mar 2019 11.07pm)

COYP

AH. you are quoting ad verbatim what that Rapper said on C4 which is what I saw on Twitter. He's right of course up to a point, but then statistics can be swung normally to suit you're view point.
Part of the problem with Gang culture is that School/College/Learning, whatever you want to call it is looked upon as not being cool.
These youngsters leave school with no qualifications but more Importantly no aspirations as they all think they are going to be the next Big Rap Star.

Pro USA & Israel

Good old Melanie Philips.

Back in the day I definitely would.......but can you imagine the scorn if you'd put in a bad performance.

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