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deleted user  08 Mar 19 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It does make you wonder what fantastic opportunities they think the rest of us had. South London estates and comprehensives in the seventies weren’t a gateway to untold riches either. If you got on the housing ladder 30 years ago in some parts of London, it's not far short of buying a winning lottery ticket. The direction of the property market has, through complete luck, enriched plenty of people. So in retrospect that was a fantastic opportunity and one that certainly doesn't exist for young people now. I think it's the idea for many that even if you do work hard now, it's more of a struggle than it would be in the past.. and they'd be right. This is more a point about young people in London in general, not specific to crime. Just the contradiction between the prosperity of London and the increasing number of barriers to plugging into that, for most.
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 Teddy Eagle  08 Mar 19 9.21pm |
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R Originally posted by dollardays
If you got on the housing ladder 30 years ago in some parts of London, it's not far short of buying a winning lottery ticket. The direction of the property market has, through complete luck, enriched plenty of people. So in retrospect that was a fantastic opportunity and one that certainly doesn't exist for young people now. I think it's the idea for many that even if you do work hard now, it's more of a struggle than it would be in the past.. and they'd be right. This is more a point about young people in London in general, not specific to crime. Just the contradiction between the prosperity of London and the increasing number of barriers to plugging into that, for most. Yes, that’s true but as you say luck played a large part. It didn't seem such an opportunity when you were paying a mortgage then.
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Pussay Patrol  08 Mar 19 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
If you got on the housing ladder 30 years ago in some parts of London, it's not far short of buying a winning lottery ticket. The direction of the property market has, through complete luck, enriched plenty of people. So in retrospect that was a fantastic opportunity and one that certainly doesn't exist for young people now. I think it's the idea for many that even if you do work hard now, it's more of a struggle than it would be in the past.. and they'd be right. This is more a point about young people in London in general, not specific to crime. Just the contradiction between the prosperity of London and the increasing number of barriers to plugging into that, for most. that's out of control capitalism creating a growing 2 tier society pushing more people into poverty and the inevitable rise in crime. eventually it'll lead to anarchy and large scale public disorder
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| .TUX. 08 Mar 19 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
If you got on the housing ladder 30 years ago in some parts of London, it's not far short of buying a winning lottery ticket. The direction of the property market has, through complete luck, enriched plenty of people. So in retrospect that was a fantastic opportunity and one that certainly doesn't exist for young people now. I think it's the idea for many that even if you do work hard now, it's more of a struggle than it would be in the past.. and they'd be right. This is more a point about young people in London in general, not specific to crime. Just the contradiction between the prosperity of London and the increasing number of barriers to plugging into that, for most. Due to the elephant in the room that is never mentioned? The fiat currency forced upon us that is now, along with every fiat currency it's followed, is coming to an end, along with the inherent inflation that it brings hence why we are all worse off than those we follow.
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| deleted user 08 Mar 19 9.46pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That's true also, as they say you've got to be in it to win it! Now though, getting a mortgage on a comparable job to back then is a pipe dream.
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| .TUX. 08 Mar 19 9.52pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
that's out of control capitalism creating a growing 2 tier society pushing more people into poverty and the inevitable rise in crime. eventually it'll lead to anarchy and large scale public disorder I make you right but once again, and you're not alone, you've omitted 'crony' before the word capitalism.
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| W12 08 Mar 19 10.06pm | |
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It makes me laugh when leftie soyboys romatisise about anarchy. In a true anarchist society they would just be the easiest prey for every other tribe. They would not survive. If you really want to see anarchy go to a failing 3rd world state and see if you like it.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Mar 19 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
I make you right but once again, and you're not alone, you've omitted 'crony' before the word capitalism.
Sounds like you really want your grandchildren speaking Chinese or Russian Tux.......because that would probably be what would happen. I agree with you on the crony element of capitalism and the flaws of a society that increasingly is looking like a corporate play thing.....However, I don't think it's too paranoid to suggest that the 'reds' aren't even under the bed anymore. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Mar 2019 10.08pm)
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| .TUX. 08 Mar 19 10.27pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sounds like you really want your grandchildren speaking Chinese or Russian Tux.......because that would probably be what would happen. I agree with you on the crony element of capitalism and the flaws of a society that increasingly is looking like a corporate play thing.....However, I don't think it's too paranoid to suggest that the 'reds' aren't even under the bed anymore. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Mar 2019 10.08pm) I'm aware of that but people adapt. That's what we do. The world is turning to rats***.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Mar 19 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
I'm aware of that but people adapt. That's what we do. The world is turning to rats***.
Yep.....I hope I'm wrong but I'm not that optimistic for the future. We have had poor leaders making poor decisions for decades now.......and we just seem to have drones in to replace them. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Mar 2019 10.38pm)
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| .TUX. 08 Mar 19 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep.....I hope I'm wrong but I'm not that optimistic for the future. We have had poor leaders making poor decisions for decades now.......and we just seem to have drones in to replace them. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Mar 2019 10.38pm) And people seem happy to accept this The race to the bottom has been won.
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cryrst  The garden of England 09 Mar 19 7.44am |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
And people seem happy to accept this The race to the bottom has been won. And you donate how much to the poor?
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