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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Mar 19 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

So you never had stuff falling off the back of lorries in your area? This has been happening since the dockyards were big business.

No market traders or happy go lucky characters who either didn’t have a job to ‘live’ or had stuff on plus collecting dole, with possibly lots of days spent in the pub or in and out of it, with some ‘business’ done there too?

There may not have been many people identical to Del boy or the other characters but there would’ve been plenty who shared some of his lifestyle and characteristics.

I thought John Sullivan grew up in South London and Del Boy was a composite of people he knew? I have certainly known lots of those characters in Lewisham. Never had a job always ducking and diving but never claimed benefits either, they just fly under the radar.

Mickey Pearce used to drink in my pub, well the actor who played him did.

Edited by Badger11 (13 Mar 2019 7.48pm)

 


One more point

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 13 Mar 19 7.50pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by richard shaw (og)65

never existed , a south london stereotype by writers who didn't have a clue , only fools and horses never really reflected the south london i grew up in and live in .

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There was only one writer, John Sullivan, who came from Balham and knew very well what he was writing about. Most of the well known stories from the series were based on real events.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Mar 19 8.11pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i reckon London peaked (in terms of World importance) sometime between the 1840's Industrial Revolution and the end of WWI.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Mar 19 8.11pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Galv

Bread was apparently a comedy. It fueled my skewed view of Liverpool as being a city of parasites.

Being a scally was a kind of accepted path to take in the ‘80s. But there was mass unemployment so that’s expected.

 


COYP

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 13 Mar 19 8.23pm

Originally posted by Galv

Bread was apparently a comedy. It fueled my skewed view of Liverpool as being a city of parasites.

Never seen bread but it sounds pretty accurate...

Edited by ChrisGC (13 Mar 2019 8.24pm)

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 13 Mar 19 8.25pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The 'fall of London' has not come with bombs and the sound of tanks rolling into Trafalgar Square, it is a steady pervasive creep.

Britain as a whole will go the same way as immigrant populations outbreed us and slowly make more demands and dictate our politics to an increasing extent.

As I have said before. We are the Neanderthals in this scenario. It is about sheer numbers and the train of migrants will never stop.

It seems as if politicians have already surrendered to the certainty of the extinction of the European.
They have sold our future for personal gain.

Correct.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Mar 19 8.27pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Never seen bread but it sounds pretty accurate...

Edited by ChrisGC (13 Mar 2019 8.24pm)

A family of 4 brothers at their mum’s family home who’d go out every day grafting for money by buying and selling stuff, also claiming benefits, and a cheap looking tarty sister whose only asset was her sex appeal, which I didn’t think she had.

 


COYP

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deleted user Flag 13 Mar 19 8.31pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

A family of 4 brothers at their mum’s family home who’d go out every day grafting for money by buying and selling stuff, also claiming benefits, and a cheap looking tarty sister whose only asset was her sex appeal, which I didn’t think she had.

Leave my family alone

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 13 Mar 19 8.34pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

A family of 4 brothers at their mum’s family home who’d go out every day grafting for money by buying and selling stuff, also claiming benefits, and a cheap looking tarty sister whose only asset was her sex appeal, which I didn’t think she had.

Replace grafting for stealing and it's absolutely spot on.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 13 Mar 19 8.36pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I’ve lived my whole life in London, aside from 3 years at University, and I can’t see myself leaving any time soon; I still love it.

Can’t agree at all with the assessment that it’s ‘fallen’.

It’s interesting to read all this talk of how all these dangerous ghettos have formed - there are countless areas which are infinitely safer and more desirable than even 10 years ago; Brixton, Peckham, Lewisham, Elephant & Castle have all been gentrified beyond recognition, and appear to be continuing to do so.

Fair point.

If you accept that globalisation is inevitable then it certainly takes a lot of stress away.

I sympathise with those who mourn the loss of national identity but I still see this in abundance in big events - royal weddings. The ilymlics, Wimbledon... I could go on

I think the point is I never really understood what our national identity was in the first place anyway - we’re the best in the world at absorbing ideas into our culture, that seems to be what we do best. I’m not sure what you could really define ‘legacy’ Britishness as anyway. It is what it is. Don’t waste you life on bitterness

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Mar 19 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Fair point.

If you accept that globalisation is inevitable then it certainly takes a lot of stress away.

I sympathise with those who mourn the loss of national identity but I still see this in abundance in big events - royal weddings. The ilymlics, Wimbledon... I could go on

I think the point is I never really understood what our national identity was in the first place anyway - we’re the best in the world at absorbing ideas into our culture, that seems to be what we do best. I’m not sure what you could really define ‘legacy’ Britishness as anyway. It is what it is. Don’t waste you life on bitterness

Bitter? Talk about understatement.

Imagine going to Japan and saying, 'I never really understood what our national identity was in the first place anyway.'.....Sounds like something Justin Trudeau would say.

Ok, you may not care too much about anglo saxon culture in England but here's a taste of the country's roots.

Here's a video of the country around Churchill's funeral for a picture of what this country should have protected....again, as have other countries.
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Here's a connection to the anglo saxon past.

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A tradition that was maintained for centuries and still is....but the feckless and people confused about the value of their identity will ensure is eventually lost.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Mar 2019 8.48pm)

 


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If you need a metal detector to go to McDonalds then you're in serious trouble.

 


We'll never die

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