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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 16 Mar 19 10.04am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

It won't be hard for you to give us a quote then. Show me me one racist comment

a needle in a haystack. Just like Laddo's opinions on who palace should sign in the transfer window.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Great film.

Learned more about the financial crisis through watching this than all the news programs put together.


I did as well....though at one point there's this attractive female in a soapy bath talking about finance and I must confess.....my mind wondered away from derivatives.

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

It could get better or a lot worse for me today.

Palace, Wales, England. Let’s hope most of us are happier tonight

Yep, important match tonight.

 


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deleted user Flag 16 Mar 19 4.37pm

A reminder that there is a fund raising page for the families

Quote All funds raised are going to be distributed to the families by NZIIC - New Zealand Islamic Information Centre. All proceeds will help with the immediate, short-term needs of the grieving families. No amount of money will bring back their loved ones, but we do hope to lessen their burden in some way.

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 16 Mar 19 7.05pm

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Somebody made a good point about this attack being the retaliatory result of Islamic terror, here's an article about said mosque from 2014.

I'm just putting it out there for background, of course I find the attack completely abhorrent and inexcusable before anyone starts.

If the authorities acted to address accusations of radical mosques by shutting them down, would we get the escalation to violence (on both sides)?

 

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

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Somebody made a good point about this attack being the retaliatory result of Islamic terror, here's an article about said mosque from 2014.

I'm just putting it out there for background, of course I find the attack completely abhorrent and inexcusable before anyone starts.

If the authorities acted to address accusations of radical mosques by shutting them down, would we get the escalation to violence (on both sides)?


I haven't read this guy's manifesto though I have heard from those that have.....it seems his aim is to create far more attacks in his wake....though that much was obvious.

He wants the establishment to come down hard on what they consider far right and alt 'lite' conservatives so that with the next Islamic attack the body of reactionary elements is far higher.....The guy is a monster but he isn't stupid....apparently he named Candace Owens and Pewdiepie because he knew that the usual suspects would dog pile onto them.

So far the dimsters in the MSM and political worlds are playing his game. We know that what's coming both from Islamic extremists...though it always was and we know what's coming from the Baizuo and allies. It's all so bloody depressing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Mar 2019 7.23pm)

 


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deleted user Flag 16 Mar 19 7.28pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

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Somebody made a good point about this attack being the retaliatory result of Islamic terror, here's an article about said mosque from 2014.

I'm just putting it out there for background, of course I find the attack completely abhorrent and inexcusable before anyone starts.

If the authorities acted to address accusations of radical mosques by shutting them down, would we get the escalation to violence (on both sides)?

Interesting. With religion there is always the potential for some to go off the deep end, since religion itself is a set of rules and interpretations that are detached from the law of land. That said, we're seeing more and more that people can become radicalised in all sorts of ways detached from religion. We're seeing that all too clearly.

When I originally searched for the 'launchgood' fundraiser link, what actually came up was a completely different Muslim led fund for synagogue shooting victims from late last year [Link]

Now a Jewish group has started raising money as result in this shooter [Link]

In neither case was the shooter Jewish or Muslim, but that's neither here nor there. For what it's worth and for what good it is, it is this kind of selfless act that goes at least some way to dampen the flames that all radicalised types and terrorists of whatever hue or view attempt to stoke. Sometimes there's a fine line between going down the wrong path, and realising that there is still a hell of a lot of decency and humanity out there even in the face of this horror. We always need to keep that thought in mind when someone undertakes acts of terror designed to snuff that fact out.


 

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deleted user Flag 16 Mar 19 7.33pm

Mosque massacre hero who tried to wrestle gun from shooter as he killed worshippers is confirmed dead as it is revealed his son also died in monstrous attack - [Link]


This guy was s*** out of cut. He certainly gave it a good go through in trying to wrestle the gun away from this coward. In all of these horror scenarios you always get some that go out fighting or put their own life before others.

Edited by dollardays (16 Mar 2019 7.34pm)

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 16 Mar 19 7.35pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I agree with Dollardays.

I applaud the NZ people for assisting the Muslims and condemning the attack

If ordinary Muslims had been as vocal in their rejection if Islamic State, perhaps that may have dampened the extreme right-wingers.

Not an excuse for murder. But the good Muslims had plenty of opportunity to condemn IS, and their attrocities ..and stayed silent.

 


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watched the video this morning and its harrowing.

no place in the world for race hate...imagine what sort of f***ed up human being you would need to be to do this type of thing.

 


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deleted user Flag 16 Mar 19 8.51pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I agree with Dollardays.

I applaud the NZ people for assisting the Muslims and condemning the attack

If ordinary Muslims had been as vocal in their rejection if Islamic State, perhaps that may have dampened the extreme right-wingers.

Not an excuse for murder. But the good Muslims had plenty of opportunity to condemn IS, and their attrocities ..and stayed silent.

You're right, condemnation needs to come from all sides. It does to an extent but nowhere near enough and needs to be the focus. The media don't help. It's not headline material, whereas conflict and horror shows always will be. It warps the day to day and leads individuals and groups to knowing that they can capture the attention of the world and push people to extremes by letting out their rage at innocents. ISIS knew that as does this guy.

As hrolf said, violence begats violence, and I think by the same token acts of kindness and selflessness begat a level of peace and common cause. Not hippy sh!t, just being a decent human being to others helps. These acts help dampen down numerous wild fires and never get credit for anything, because 'not seeing' or avoiding carnage isn't news.

Combine that with a sane immigration policy and intelligence agencies that have a better idea of what's going on in certain mosques, religious schools, extreme right groups and so on.

Online communities too, Islamic, 8chan types. They should infiltrate them if they haven't already. This lot were cheering on the horror in real time and are now editing 'funny videos' and images of the victims. They're no different than those cretins cheering on 9/11. No doubt they watched the first person nature of the killer's 'game' and viewed those slaughtered as 'non playable characters' not worthy of basic consideration. From terrorists like this guy, to radicalised men and dim witted brides swanning off to join ISIS it would appear that brainwashing is getting easier by the day.


Edited by dollardays (16 Mar 2019 9.23pm)

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 16 Mar 19 9.02pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I agree with Dollardays.

I applaud the NZ people for assisting the Muslims and condemning the attack

If ordinary Muslims had been as vocal in their rejection if Islamic State, perhaps that may have dampened the extreme right-wingers.

Not an excuse for murder. But the good Muslims had plenty of opportunity to condemn IS, and their attrocities ..and stayed silent.

what led you to this conclusion?

How do you know that was the case and what does it have to do with this attack?

 


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