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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 28 May 19 8.21am |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
The Arsenal director Vinai Venkatesham says it all, he says: “When we are selling players we need to maximise the funds we get to reinvest in the team. “We’re going to have to be brave in those decisions because we can’t be in a situation where we’re allowing players to walk out of the door for free unless they are coming towards the end of their careers.” Arsenal have been masters of fvcking that up in recent years and it’s been a big reason for them falling out of the top 4-5. We can’t make the same mistake and fall out of 14-17th place. Don’t fool yourselves we’re mid table because we’re not. We spend 33-34 matches of the season 2-3 places above the relegation zone. Time to make decisions on luka right now if he won’t sign a reasonable offer.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 May 19 8.34am |
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I hope Luka stays "big fish small pond". We should be able to match wages with the bigger clubs and will he be a key player there? hopefully this is just contract negotiations.
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| JohnB 28 May 19 8.39am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Arsenal have been masters of fvcking that up in recent years and it’s been a big reason for them falling out of the top 4-5. We can’t make the same mistake and fall out of 14-17th place. Don’t fool yourselves we’re mid table because we’re not. We spend 33-34 matches of the season 2-3 places above the relegation zone. Time to make decisions on luka right now if he won’t sign a reasonable offer. Think the problem is he's yet to receive one.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 May 19 9.00am |
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Originally posted by JohnB
Think the problem is he's yet to receive one. Possibly yeah. Parish is normally really good in this area, which is probably helping us get into the position he hasn’t been early in offering Luka new terms, (along with p1ss poor scouting and overpaying because of that and not buying wiser when we actually needed players but instead did so when we were in severe danger of relegation).
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| eritheagle Erith 28 May 19 10.00am |
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For all we know he may have already agreed a new contract in principle. It may be there on the table to sign when he returns from his summer holidays.
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aquickgame2  Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 28 May 19 10.34am |
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There are Lies,truths and know fck all Im in the Know Fck all department
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| JohnB 28 May 19 11.28am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Possibly yeah. Parish is normally really good in this area, which is probably helping us get into the position he hasn’t been early in offering Luka new terms, (along with p1ss poor scouting and overpaying because of that and not buying wiser when we actually needed players but instead did so when we were in severe danger of relegation). Parish doesn't deal with the contract negotiations now, I'm pretty certain it's Dougie and he's been tasked with getting the wage bill down as much as possible. From what I've heard, we gave Luka an offer of a renewal and it was well below what he was expecting. I don't think he was looking for pay parity with players like Zaha, but more Tomkins, Townsend and Dann. It fell short of that I think. Think there's every chance he will sign a new contract but there's always the danger of an offer being considered derisory by the player and burning bridges.
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| exiled eagle Southampton 28 May 19 12.01pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
This bland acceptance that if a big team comes sniffing we lose players is total bollocks. We are an established PL team and if we want to keep players we simply price them at a level where no-one is interested, or if they are still interested then they became replaceable with the money. If a player wants to leave then that is s different story however Luka is our captain, Wilf is our hero and AWB is our youngster come good. As far as we truly know, none of them want to leave and therefore unless someone wants to pay: Zaha £100m they can all do one. All in my opinion of course but it’s time we started acting like an established PL club and not a patsy for the top 6. Spot on mate
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| Eaglecoops CR3 28 May 19 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
The Arsenal director Vinai Venkatesham says it all, he says: “When we are selling players we need to maximise the funds we get to reinvest in the team. “We’re going to have to be brave in those decisions because we can’t be in a situation where we’re allowing players to walk out of the door for free unless they are coming towards the end of their careers.” Sorry, have I missed something? Is Luka genuinely in dispute over whether or not to sign a new contract? I agree of course that his value diminishes considerably as his contract winds down but as captain of the club I kind of expected him to be offered decent terms AND for him to want to stay.
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| palace99 New Mills 29 May 19 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by eritheagle
For all we know he may have already agreed a new contract in principle. It may be there on the table to sign when he returns from his summer holidays. It was actually almost 2 years before!. Signed a 4 year contract extension soon after Cabeye signed so when press reported he was soon to be a free (last summer) he came out and said he still had another 2 years left. Has since had another renewal so has another 2 years left from now. Think we have done similar with Kelly and Wayne - extensions with no massive fuss. Guessing a lot depends on the agent whether it gets much publicity or not.
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 29 May 19 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
This bland acceptance that if a big team comes sniffing we lose players is total bollocks. We are an established PL team and if we want to keep players we simply price them at a level where no-one is interested, or if they are still interested then they became replaceable with the money. If a player wants to leave then that is s different story however Luka is our captain, Wilf is our hero and AWB is our youngster come good. As far as we truly know, none of them want to leave and therefore unless someone wants to pay: Zaha £100m they can all do one. All in my opinion of course but it’s time we started acting like an established PL club and not a patsy for the top 6. at 28 luca is worth £20m tops right now. get to janaury and he is down to what we paid for him.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 30 May 19 5.45am |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
at 28 luca is worth £20m tops right now. get to janaury and he is down to what we paid for him. Missing my point a bit. This is what these players are worth to us, not necessarily what their market value is. I put Luka at £50m because he is our captain and an ever present in the team. If we slap a figure at that level on him then hopefully those interested would be put off. Let’s face it, he would be difficult to replace for £20m so why would you sell him at that price?
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