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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 03 Jun 19 1.41pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
The latest figures apropos Conservative MPs voting intentions (Top six) : Johnson 30, Gove 29, Hunt 29,Raab 23, Javid 17, Hancock 11. Labour will get their advertising agencies and MP tv interview message ready for a GE if Hunt becomes leader with his dealings in the NHS.
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| Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jun 19 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Labour will get their advertising agencies and MP tv interview message ready for a GE if Hunt becomes leader with his dealings in the NHS. If Hunt is against Johnson in the final two, Johnson will win as he has the majority support amongst Conservative members.In fact Johnson will win against any other candidate in a head-to-head.There is very strong support for Johnson amongst the many Tory members I have spoken to with scant little support for Hunt.
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| Midlands Eagle 03 Jun 19 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
If Hunt is against Johnson in the final two, Johnson will win as he has the majority support amongst Conservative members.In fact Johnson will win against any other candidate in a head-to-head.There is very strong support for Johnson amongst the many Tory members I have spoken to with scant little support for Hunt. The trouble is that the members only get to vote on whoever the MPs want them to vote on and they will move heaven and earth to make sure that Boris isn't in the playoff finals
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| ChrisGC Wantage 03 Jun 19 2.51pm |
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Hunt ffs. Gove? They're all c***s anyway. Both them and Labour are f***ing atrocious. Main stream politics is finished. Imagine voting for Corbyn to be PM, what an absolute c*** you'd have to be. Likewise anyone from this shower of arseholes on the Tory side. And as for Cable? Why even bother tipping out to vote.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 03 Jun 19 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Hunt ffs. Gove? They're all c***s anyway. Both them and Labour are f***ing atrocious. Main stream politics is finished. Imagine voting for Corbyn to be PM, what an absolute c*** you'd have to be. Likewise anyone from this shower of arseholes on the Tory side. And as for Cable? Why even bother tipping out to vote. I have to agree - how on Earth is someone as utterly incompetent as Hunt even a candidate? He couldn’t have performed much worst as Health Minister, and yet he’s got a chance at being PM - speaks volumes to the state of the two main parties at the moment. I haven’t a clue where my next vote goes.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Jun 19 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Hunt ffs. Gove? They're all c***s anyway. Both them and Labour are f***ing atrocious. Main stream politics is finished. Imagine voting for Corbyn to be PM, what an absolute c*** you'd have to be. Likewise anyone from this shower of arseholes on the Tory side. And as for Cable? Why even bother tipping out to vote. I’ve heard mainstream politics is dead so many times. It isn’t, and probably won’t be until FPTP is changed.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Jun 19 10.20am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The trouble is that the members only get to vote on whoever the MPs want them to vote on and they will move heaven and earth to make sure that Boris isn't in the playoff finals Get your money on Raab.
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| Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jun 19 10.27am |
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Latest figures (Top six) apropos Conservative MPs voting intentions : Johnson 42, Hunt 32, Gove 29, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 11. Edited by Willo (04 Jun 2019 10.28am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 04 Jun 19 10.34am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I’ve heard mainstream politics is dead so many times. It isn’t, and probably won’t be until FPTP is changed. If the issue is the quality of MPs I am not sure changing the voting system will help. I would prefer beefing up the qualifications to stand as an MP e.g. minimum 5 years working in the real world. The SNP had one MP who was still in the first year of her university studies what on earth did she know about life. As for abolishing FPTP that just gives you coalition governments like Tory / Lib or Tory DUP and people are always complaining about that. Edited by Badger11 (04 Jun 2019 10.38am)
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Jun 19 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
If the issue is the quality of MPs I am not sure changing the voting system will help. I would prefer beefing up the qualifications to stand as an MP e.g. minimum 5 years working in the real world. The SNP had one MP who was still in the first year of her university studies what on earth did she know about life. As for abolishing FPTP that just gives you coalition governments like Tory / Lib or Tory DUP and people are always complaining about that. Edited by Badger11 (04 Jun 2019 10.38am) Unless you lived during WW2, we've only seen one coalition government and even that wasn't a genuine coalition as Clegg became Cameron's bitch from the start (an opportunity missed for the Lib Dems but that's another story). One party commanding a huge majority is, in my view, unhealthy for democracy, especially when that majority has been achieved via a skewed electoral system. PR is far, far more representative and whilst it may produce more hung parliaments, it makes politicians much more accountable to the electorate and that cannot be a bad thing.
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| W12 04 Jun 19 12.02pm | |
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Problem is they will all "play the game". "The game" as controlled by the MSM is the real problem because it panders to political correctness (inability to touch certain issues or use language freely mainly through fear of the press), minorities (Islam, anyone who is not white and LGBTxyz) and special interest groups (especially the climate mafia). The reason why Trump succeeded is he refused to apologize and had the guts to go after his opponents at full tilt. Bolsonaro and Salvini are similar in that respect. Don't think even Farage has it in him to do that so unless someone turns up who can I'm not hopeful that we avoid major civil unrest. Our natural instinct for / culture of, politeness is our undoing.
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| robdave2k 04 Jun 19 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes I know. I’d possibly give it to Andrea Leadsome. (The leadership) Real life business experience, and at board level, in several top places. And an utterly horrible woman to work with. And also out of her depth.
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