Disagree 100%. It's all bs. NK are playing Trump like a fish. It's beyond stupid for an American President to give the kind of propaganda victory to Kim Jong-un that Trump has. Trump needs to leave any contact to junior officials and apply pressure through sanctions. Raising the status of Kim to that of an equal is crazy. China will play it long, flatter Trump and await his departure. Trump cannot see beyond 2020. No business nous needed or involved. Mexico are similar. They need the USA more than the USA need Mexico so will gift Trump a few sound bite victories, flatter him and hope he goes away soon. Stopping the immigrants crossing their country is also in their own interests so it's win win for them. The fewer immigrants from other central American countries get through the more Mexicans America will need to do the menial work.

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If something is irrelevant to a discussion it doesn't mean it is irrelevant does it?

It just means it is not germane to the topic under review.

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No it doesn’t. It means you refuse to accept anything which doesn’t fit your narrative. Context is all. An MP forgetting his keys isn’t news but one who’s a spy is. In this case you’ve said there was no coercion or pressure applied to different news outlets but that they independently decided that huge scale rape was not newsworthy. That is frankly ridiculous and in this case led to unimaginable suffering on the part of hundreds of girls. If you can justify that with your logic then have at it.

That is simply untrue. ALL I have said was solely in response to the suggestion that the freedom of the press was somehow being compromised. Nothing I said was about whether the background case was newsworthy, or whether any coercion or pressure was applied because I don't know if any was, or not, and I suspect no-one else does either. ALL I have said is that IF the media voluntarily decided to restrain their coverage then their freedom would not have been compromised as they would have taken that decision themselves.

It was a simple, and very specific, point. Only those with an agenda to try to make some kind of issue out of it have distorted the meaning and made totally incorrect assumptions.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Jun 2019 10.28am)

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The sky at night is black, so you're wrong.

So your contention is that every media outlet decided voluntarily and simultaneously that there was nothing newsworthy in the various stories?