So no chance they will hold the balance of power then? I think it is you that is in fantasy land.

Let's hope they do a better job next time than they did when in bed with the Tories.

I remember David Owen and I remember the original Liberals. I had time for aspects of both of them.

There is a certain morality within the Lib Dems that is an echo to old Quakerism that I have time for but it forms only a part of a wholly unrealistic egalitarian worldview that is contributing to the decline of western civilisation.

So in short, yes....the idea that the Lib Dems would be credible would be a nightmare.....in a sense.

There's an argument, in certain areas of the right, for accelerationism of course......so perhaps it wouldn't be such a bad thing in the long run.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

My user name is Mapletree, yet strangely I speak no Canadian.

You have again not answered my question. Will you be a returning expat, having not paid NICs for many years, that expects the British State to look after him in his old age because it's too expensive to keep up the medical insurance in the US? Like so many people I meet. The worst form of health tourist. And they don't even have to pay NICs when they get into older age, so they are at their most expensive age for the NHS and contribute waxba. Kind of the direct opposite of migrant workers that come to the UK.

Am I? Coo.

Actually I defy labelling

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Maple old son, just so you can enjoy you're Roast Beef & Yorkshire Puddings this afternoon. I have no intention (Catastrophe permitting) of returning & living on that once sceptered Isle.
And shouldn't that be at the top of your post be 'I don't speak French'

Pro USA & Israel

JC is very unpopular and so non committal on the Brexit fence that he has splinters coming out of his mouth.

It does create an interesting dynamic though, in that if there was an election soon, depending on the stated party view at the time it's not entirely beyond the realms of possibility that the Tories, Labours, Brexit party or indeed the Lib Dems could each manage to come out on top. It would be due to the spread of votes across parties rather than the overwhelming popularity of any of them though.

Current most seats odds are

Conservatives 11/10
Labour 6/4
Brexit Party 8-1
Lid Dems 18-1

This would all depend on the clarity of the message and any agreements between parties at the time. What gives the Lib Dems and Brexit party any outside chance at all is that they at least have a clear message and intention. It's all very up in the air and another coalition government isn't beyond the realms of possibility 'if' we see a generation election anytime soon.