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 elgrande  bedford 07 Jul 19 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
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| Stirlingsays 07 Jul 19 8.32pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Watch the football World Cup semi final and see which players do sing the national anthem Still, a display of allegiance to your countrymen, or lack of, can manifest itself in many ways and is a responsibility of all. My British born black and mixed mates don't need to be given some kind of special seal of approval from someone who 'prefers European ethnicity', harps on about genetics non stop and refers to gay people as 'fags'. Some people need to learn how to assimilate into their own society rather than just perpetually cast stones at others. Valuing societal and familial ties is not always about how someone else behaves. Edited by dollardays (07 Jul 2019 6.15pm) This is what people like you do. You take a joke I made to wind DanH up with and then present it outside of context. So for anyone reading this who isn't aware about this poster....I suspect he is the old Word Up from the past who left around when Nick departed, if you remember that guy....He's never denied the contention nor answered it. He has a very similar style and mode of posting. Take what he says against other posters with the knowledge that he has an agenda to present very one eyed representations of their arguments or comments. Not a poster worthy of trusting on here, nor someone I wager is worthy of much trust in life. It's unfortunate that I spend the time on those two previous posts before seeing your latest out of context attacks on me. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2019 8.39pm)
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| deleted user 07 Jul 19 8.41pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This is what people like you do. You take a joke I made to wind DanH up with and then present it outside of context. So for anyone reading this who isn't aware about this poster....I suspect he is the old Word Up from the past who left around when Nick departed, if you remember that guy....He's never denied the contention nor answered it. He has a very similar style and mode of posting. Take what he says against other posters with the knowledge that he has an agenda to present very one eyed representations of their arguments or comments. Not a poster worthy of trusting on here, nor someone I wager is worthy of much trust in life.
Yeah hilarious. Let's pepper the place with the n word too shall we, that's be a right laugh. All harmless fun. The point stands, you offer no standard when you throw around words like that towards groups you're not keen on who engage in 'lifestyles you don't like'. Stop whining about it when your lack of basic decency is highlighted.
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| deleted user 07 Jul 19 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
While I'd fully agree that the homosexual community along with other communities have considerable cause to be concerned with the coming and on-going percentage increase in mainstream Islam and its pretty consistent attitudes. I would contrast your previous exhaustively paged concern for one sexual identity group shown in that previous thread with your lack of concern for continued existence of racial ones. Yet our admittance into these groups are principally genetically determined ones and can't be biologically altered.....So why the difference in emphasis....it should at least demonstrate some concern for both. For me, that's 'identity politics for me, but not for thee'. While I disagree with you and the state on what should be sexual education in schools I certainly share a genuine concern for minorities within Islam....a contrast in attitudes which makes my disproving attitude towards 'pride' type activism look like a tranny acceptance ceremony in comparison.
A persons sexual identity is for them to express their own way. Certainly where adherence to invented Gods gets in the way of people living their lives I am all for not giving two figs about that, as I made clear before. As I previously stated, the idea the education policy in an area should bend to the will and be catered around muslim sensibilities in muslim areas, which was your take by the way, certainly wasn't for me and I was clear about that. I don't have a lot of time for religion where it infringes upon others lives and have highlighted that I view assimilation as more difficult when religion is a factor. Mass immigration isn't something I've ever favoured anyway so there's that...
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| deleted user 07 Jul 19 8.47pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's unfortunate that I spend the time on those two previous posts before seeing your latest out of context attacks on me. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2019 8.39pm) No it's unfortunate that you demand allegiance and offer none to your own countrymen with your hateful slurs. Good luck with assimilating though. You initially offered a huge reply when I was answering someone else anyway. Your inability to deal with various demographics around you is your own issue. You're under no obligation to share your concerns with me or to communicate with me.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Jul 19 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Yeah hilarious. Let's pepper the place with the n word too shall we, that's be a right laugh. All harmless fun. The point stands, you offer no standard when you throw around words like that towards groups you're not keen on who engage in 'lifestyles you don't like'. Stop whining about it when your lack of basic decency is highlighted. So in your latest display of 'identity politics'....which seemingly regularly relates to this one group, you are suggesting that the word 'fag' is just as bad a word as the word, '******'. Not to me personally and I'd suggest not in society generally but regardless I was making a joke, and you imply here that this context doesn't matter as you try to demonise me. You aren't worthy of trust on here, nor I suggest would you be in real life.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Jul 19 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
No it's unfortunate that you demand allegiance and offer none to your own countrymen with your hateful slurs. Good luck with assimilating though. You initially offered a huge reply when I was answering someone else anyway. Your inability to deal with various demographics around you is your own issue. You're under no obligation to share your concerns with me or to communicate with me. Sure, and regardless of what I think of you I won't if you ask. However, in the absence of that when you post on subjects that interest me and where I disagree with you I'll reply. If only to highlight what I view as the inevitable conclusions of your opinions.
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| deleted user 07 Jul 19 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So in your latest display of 'identity politics'....which seemingly regularly relates to this one group, you are suggesting that the word 'fag' is just as bad a word as the word, '******'. Not to me personally and I'd suggest not in society generally but regardless I was making a joke, and you imply here that this context doesn't matter as you try to demonise me. You aren't worthy of trust on here, nor I suggest would you be in real life. They are both the most hateful word that can be expressed towards said groups. I don't much care about whatever hierarchy you have in your head or whatever justification you feel makes sense to you. Neither words are present in most peoples vocabulary, because people tend to extend a modicum of decency to their fellow man. They tend to pull together. To Assimilate.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Jul 19 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
A persons sexual identity is for them to express their own way. Sure, as is their racial.....though you did spend a significant time waffling about 'white supremacy' in previous threads. So it appears that you operate different standards between the sexual and racial. An acceptance for the celebration of one but not the other.....indeed a willingness to demonise it and cloak it in ridiculous terms like 'white supremacy'. Originally posted by dollardays
Certainly where adherence to invented Gods gets in the way of people living their lives I am all for not giving two figs about that, as I made clear before. As I previously stated, the idea the education policy in an area should bend to the will and be catered around muslim sensibilities in muslim areas, which was your take by the way, certainly wasn't for me and I was clear about that. So someone's religious beliefs don't bother you unless they conflict with one of your beliefs.....Not surprising. Disapproving of the teaching of same sex relationships to five year olds isn't just something that most Muslims disapprove of. I too view that marriage between couples capable of reproduction is more important for society than one that can't. All parents have the right to be concerned about the state pushing sexual politics onto their children that is in direct opposition to their own culture. Originally posted by dollardays
I don't have a lot of time for religion where it infringes upon others lives and have highlighted that I view assimilation as more difficult when religion is a factor. Mass immigration isn't something I've ever favoured anyway so there's that... Well buckle up cowboy because this ride is one way.....and egalitarian ideas have a difficult job really objecting to 'mass immigration'. However, this is at least something with which we have a partial agreement. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2019 9.31pm)
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| Stirlingsays 07 Jul 19 9.28pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
They are both the most hateful word that can be expressed towards said groups. I don't much care about whatever hierarchy you have in your head or whatever justification you feel makes sense to you. Neither words are present in most peoples vocabulary, because people tend to extend a modicum of decency to their fellow man. They tend to pull together. To Assimilate. Hateful in your eyes maybe.....How progressive of you to use 'hateful', which would suggest I 'hate'. I don't view 'fag' as anything other than a slight slur and I used it within a joke context. Unless you are supporting censorship of words you don't like I suggest you get over it and accept it as such. I deliberately used it to wind up a fellow 'progressive' like you. I don't support the increased censorship on words. Here's some George Carlin for you.
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| deleted user 07 Jul 19 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sure, as is their racial.....though you did spend a significant time waffling about 'white supremacy' in previous threads. So it appears that you operate different standards between the sexual and racial. Yes it is. much like sexual identity we all get to procreate with exactly who we wish to. I know many couples, most white, some mixed. Who cares. However, beyond your own partner how others live their lives is down to them. Beyond that and of course immigration policy, you don't get to configure a country along whatever racial or sexual lines you feel most comfortable with. It is what it is. Quote So someone's religious beliefs don't bother you unless they conflict with one of your beliefs.....Not surprising.
I said "certainly where adherence to invented Gods gets in the way of people living their lives I am all for not giving two figs about that". Not 'my life' or your life. I have nothing to gain here. So in this case, or is someone wants to draw a religious figure without a nutter doing them in, or leave a religion, or 'for all his faults' the likes of Tommy highlighting grooming gangs. All of those things.
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| deleted user 07 Jul 19 9.45pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Hateful in your eyes maybe.....How progressive of you to use 'hateful', which would suggest I 'hate'. I don't view 'fag' as anything other than a slight slur and I used it within a joke context. Unless you are supporting censorship of words you don't like I suggest you get over it and accept it as such. I deliberately used it to wind up a fellow 'progressive' like you. I don't support the increased censorship on words. Here's some George Carlin for you. This isn't sound bawdy joke which is the polar opposite of your actual beliefs though is it. This is someone reeling out talk of 'degenerate fags' as a 'joke' who previously said that you have no obligation to treat gays in any way because they live 'a lifestyle you don't like' and who primed to remove their kids from school if theyre taught about gay relationships. Your behaviour is a lack of familial decency and allegiance, so yes it's a laugh that you whine about others lack of assimilation when effectively that is an accurate description of your own behaviour. I don't agree with censoring any words. Carlin was a decent man who had plenty of time for everyone regardless of colour or creed. That ain't you. Unless people share your exacting sensibilities you're marking off demographics like an OAP at bingo. Edited by dollardays (07 Jul 2019 9.47pm)
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