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Stirlingsays 10 Jul 19 6.43pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by DanH "Taking back control" by being America's laptop. Wrong thread? Still, kudos for being able to type about political lapdogs while you're deep throating the EU. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2019 6.44pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jul 19 6.43pm

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Originally posted by DanH

"Taking back control" by being America's laptop.

Wrong thread? Still, kudos for being able to type about political lapdogs while you're deep throating the EU.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2019 6.44pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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.TUX. 10 Jul 19 7.00pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Penge Eagle Kim Darroch is pro EU and a globalist, am glad he's gone. Draining the swamp? Buy Litecoin.
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Kim Darroch is pro EU and a globalist, am glad he's gone.

Draining the swamp?

Buy Litecoin.

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Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 11 Jul 19 1.24am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Once again you are under the impression that your acceptance of a situation is of paramount importance. Maybe your memory of how to work Google is at fault. Or similar. No. I am under the impression that it is for those who make assertions to prove them. I have tried to help you but cannot find anything, so now it's over to you. If you read this then you can find it. I have no more idea where to look. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Once again you are under the impression that your acceptance of a situation is of paramount importance.
Maybe your memory of how to work Google is at fault. Or similar.

No. I am under the impression that it is for those who make assertions to prove them. I have tried to help you but cannot find anything, so now it's over to you. If you read this then you can find it. I have no more idea where to look.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 11 Jul 19 1.30am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Penge Eagle Kim Darroch is pro EU and a globalist, am glad he's gone. He is a professional diplomat who told the truth as he saw it, in confidence and bluntly. The truth as shared by the vast majority in the UK, and I think, the USA too. His personal feelings about the EU etc are irrelevant to his capacity to do his job. However once again they are also the views of most of his countrymen too, in my opinion. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Kim Darroch is pro EU and a globalist, am glad he's gone.

He is a professional diplomat who told the truth as he saw it, in confidence and bluntly. The truth as shared by the vast majority in the UK, and I think, the USA too.

His personal feelings about the EU etc are irrelevant to his capacity to do his job. However once again they are also the views of most of his countrymen too, in my opinion.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 11 Jul 19 1.32am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by becky Have you listened to that Radio 4 interview with the former Crown Prosecutor for the North East that I posted? Or does it have to be in black and white for you t believe it? No I haven't. Where I am the Internet cannot handle such things. I will when I return home next week. One person's opinion doesn't amount to too much, but I will listen. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by becky

Have you listened to that Radio 4 interview with the former Crown Prosecutor for the North East that I posted? Or does it have to be in black and white for you t believe it?

No I haven't. Where I am the Internet cannot handle such things. I will when I return home next week. One person's opinion doesn't amount to too much, but I will listen.

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Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 11 Jul 19 2.45am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays At least this saves me some of the searching back on your commentary on this affair. However, there are still some comments I will highlight later. You have repeated your apologist attitudes for the handling of this affair and no doubt how our authorities are continuing to handle it. I find your apologist attitude abhorrent and unethical. Thousands of girls were raped over decades and Police and authorities knew about it.....No one sacked. I also note that you reject anything other than the most charitable explanation for these circumstances.....Again in stark contrast to your attitude in other areas in this forum. All the smear mongers on the left and the ones shouting 'racist' are responsible for the climate of fear that contributed to the coward decisions taken in these cases. Here is an Ex-Detective who worked on sex cases in this area on investigations which were closed down. [Link] She pretty much describes what was going on in the most moderate way herself....she no doubt has to worry what is said on TV.....However, she says enough to make it plain who the kind of people are with apologist attitudes. It's those people with explanations like yours which enabled the continued rape of thousands of young and underage girls in this country. And you have the cheek to come on here and point fingers at Robinson.....He is shouting for it to be known about by everyone and you support those who wanted it to go under the radar. Without accountability nothing changes. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2019 6.40pm) I am apologising for no-body. If deliberate mistakes were made then hold those responsible to account. If though they were simply error of judgement then learn from them and improve. It's neither controversial, nor "abhorrent and unethical". Indeed your assertion that it is "still going on" is much more abhorrent and unethical! I speculate about the background reasoning because that's all any of us can do. The same applies in other threads. Look at the evidence and reason out why. You draw your conclusions and I do mine. However, once again you serve away from the real point I have concentrated on. Which is not the grooming gang issue itself, or the way the authorities handled it. This thread is about "Robinson" and my remarks concern only whether his activities helped deal with these problems or, by interfering in due process, made things worse. I believe the latter. You don't. I am not either supporting those who "wanted it under the radar". All I have said is that might have been their motivation. See the difference? I am concentrating on "Robinson's" role and motivations. You see him as some kind of folk hero, exposing the evil authorities in their efforts to hide heinous crimes. I see him as an attention seeking rabble rouser with a bigger agenda, who is exploiting a serious matter for his own purposes. And yes, I was able to watch that video, as for enough time I had the bandwidth here to do so. Impressive, honest lady who cares about those who suffered and demands accountability for her senior officers. I have no issues with anything she said. I would though like to hear her opinion on "Robinson's" contribution to this for it wasn't mentioned. She concentrated on the crimes and the way they were investigated. I am discussing "Robinson". This is, after all, his thread. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

At least this saves me some of the searching back on your commentary on this affair. However, there are still some comments I will highlight later.

You have repeated your apologist attitudes for the handling of this affair and no doubt how our authorities are continuing to handle it.

I find your apologist attitude abhorrent and unethical. Thousands of girls were raped over decades and Police and authorities knew about it.....No one sacked.

I also note that you reject anything other than the most charitable explanation for these circumstances.....Again in stark contrast to your attitude in other areas in this forum.

All the smear mongers on the left and the ones shouting 'racist' are responsible for the climate of fear that contributed to the coward decisions taken in these cases.

Here is an Ex-Detective who worked on sex cases in this area on investigations which were closed down.

[Link]

She pretty much describes what was going on in the most moderate way herself....she no doubt has to worry what is said on TV.....However, she says enough to make it plain who the kind of people are with apologist attitudes. It's those people with explanations like yours which enabled the continued rape of thousands of young and underage girls in this country.

And you have the cheek to come on here and point fingers at Robinson.....He is shouting for it to be known about by everyone and you support those who wanted it to go under the radar.

Without accountability nothing changes.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2019 6.40pm)

I am apologising for no-body. If deliberate mistakes were made then hold those responsible to account. If though they were simply error of judgement then learn from them and improve. It's neither controversial, nor "abhorrent and unethical". Indeed your assertion that it is "still going on" is much more abhorrent and unethical!

I speculate about the background reasoning because that's all any of us can do. The same applies in other threads. Look at the evidence and reason out why. You draw your conclusions and I do mine.

However, once again you serve away from the real point I have concentrated on. Which is not the grooming gang issue itself, or the way the authorities handled it. This thread is about "Robinson" and my remarks concern only whether his activities helped deal with these problems or, by interfering in due process, made things worse. I believe the latter. You don't. I am not either supporting those who "wanted it under the radar". All I have said is that might have been their motivation. See the difference? I am concentrating on "Robinson's" role and motivations. You see him as some kind of folk hero, exposing the evil authorities in their efforts to hide heinous crimes. I see him as an attention seeking rabble rouser with a bigger agenda, who is exploiting a serious matter for his own purposes.

And yes, I was able to watch that video, as for enough time I had the bandwidth here to do so. Impressive, honest lady who cares about those who suffered and demands accountability for her senior officers. I have no issues with anything she said. I would though like to hear her opinion on "Robinson's" contribution to this for it wasn't mentioned. She concentrated on the crimes and the way they were investigated. I am discussing "Robinson". This is, after all, his thread.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 11 Jul 19 2.55am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst You are on a wind up surely. You are calling this just criminal activity. They laid out 12 and 13 year olds and abused or f***ed them in turns. You are not on the same page mate. I know if it was my daughter I'm now a lifer. Mistakes. Ffs they knew about it and threatened the parents with a racism charge. Take a pill and have a lye down in a dark room Which ironically is where these poor girls will be forever. The very families of these Muslim abusers did sod all and there is every chance they knew what was going on. And multi cultural Britain is great. Shove it up your rectum if that is multicultural. You are the one on the wind up! This thread is about Robinson". That's what I am addressing. You, and others, constantly try to divert the debate onto the grooming gang investigations and the way they were handled. Whilst relevant in context on their own they aren't. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by cryrst

You are on a wind up surely.
You are calling this just criminal activity.
They laid out 12 and 13 year olds and abused or f***ed them in turns.
You are not on the same page mate.
I know if it was my daughter I'm now a lifer.
Mistakes.
Ffs they knew about it and threatened the parents with a racism charge.
Take a pill and have a lye down in a dark room
Which ironically is where these poor girls will be forever.
The very families of these Muslim abusers did sod all and there is every chance they knew what was going on.
And multi cultural Britain is great.
Shove it up your rectum if that is multicultural.

You are the one on the wind up!

This thread is about Robinson". That's what I am addressing.

You, and others, constantly try to divert the debate onto the grooming gang investigations and the way they were handled.

Whilst relevant in context on their own they aren't.

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cryrst The garden of England 11 Jul 19 6.06am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You are the one on the wind up! This thread is about Robinson". That's what I am addressing. You, and others, constantly try to divert the debate onto the grooming gang investigations and the way they were handled. Whilst relevant in context on their own they aren't. But you say he deserves punishment for what he did outside court. What case was it now. Oh yes grooming gangs. The Context is this whole thread.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are the one on the wind up!

This thread is about Robinson". That's what I am addressing.

You, and others, constantly try to divert the debate onto the grooming gang investigations and the way they were handled.

Whilst relevant in context on their own they aren't.

But you say he deserves punishment for what he did outside court.
What case was it now.
Oh yes grooming gangs.
The Context is this whole thread.

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 11 Jul 19 7.13am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No I haven't. Where I am the Internet cannot handle such things. I will when I return home next week. One person's opinion doesn't amount to too much, but I will listen. Except yours Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No I haven't. Where I am the Internet cannot handle such things. I will when I return home next week. One person's opinion doesn't amount to too much, but I will listen.

Except yours

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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dannyboy1978 11 Jul 19 7.21am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Just shows that only a few have the balls to stand up and say what they believe in. The others just hide to keep their cozy jobs. [Link] Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Jul 2019 7.23am)
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Just shows that only a few have the balls to stand up and say what they believe in. The others just hide to keep their cozy jobs.

[Link]

Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Jul 2019 7.23am)

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DanH Online SW2 11 Jul 19 7.49am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Anyone know why Tommy isn�t trying to claim asylum in the nearest safe country to him?
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Anyone know why Tommy isn�t trying to claim asylum in the nearest safe country to him?

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Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 11 Jul 19 8.06am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst But you say he deserves punishment for what he did outside court. What case was it now. Oh yes grooming gangs. The Context is this whole thread. No, the issue is whether what he did helped or hindered the investigation. Not the investigation itself. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by cryrst

But you say he deserves punishment for what he did outside court.
What case was it now.
Oh yes grooming gangs.
The Context is this whole thread.

No, the issue is whether what he did helped or hindered the investigation. Not the investigation itself.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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