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cpfc_chap koh samui 12 Jul 19 8.36pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle His case does not have any reporting restrictions. The case he "reported" on did. Thus he was guilty whilst others are free to report on him. Is it really that difficult to understand? All the information he reported on was already in the public domain!! think BBC reported on it names, photos etc..Do you not see the stitch up? Or are you that naive ?
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

His case does not have any reporting restrictions. The case he "reported" on did. Thus he was guilty whilst others are free to report on him.

Is it really that difficult to understand?

All the information he reported on was already in the public domain!! think BBC reported on it names, photos etc..Do you not see the stitch up? Or are you that naive ?

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jul 19 8.53pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ChrisGC Well said. how do you guys manage to type with your knuckles dragging on the floor? f*** sake this whole thread is an utter embarrassment to palace fans. shame on you. �Football isn�t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.� Ian Holloway
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Well said.

how do you guys manage to type with your knuckles dragging on the floor?

f*** sake this whole thread is an utter embarrassment to palace fans. shame on you.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 19 9.30pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays No one knew that at the time....newspaper reported on the case as well. This case did not require nor do any deserve any reporting restrictions. This is to keep the whole disgusting saga low key. One of the main judges in this case said that Robinson did not endanger the trial.....he's been sent down for contempt....which is a shoe horn because their original charges failed. This is political and state persecution and you are an apologist for the state who isn't worth time on these boards. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jul 2019 7.01pm) Do you know when the reporting restrictions were imposed and why? I don't and I suspect only the Judge knows all the circumstances. If any newspaper did report on the case, whilst the restrictions were in place, and have not yet been prosecuted, then there is your perfect opportunity to expose hypocrisy. Present the evidence to "Robinson's legal team and they would have a field day. You cannot possibly know whether this case deserved reporting restrictions. You are not in possession of all the relevant facts. Only the Judge making the order is. Asserting motives without knowledge, as you so often do, is what is disgusting. It has been acknowledged, I guess because the Jury were already considering their verdict, that his actions could not have affected that particular trial but that is simply not the point. It might have affected other linked trials but, even if not, it still doesn't matter what the reasons were. The restrictions existed. They apply to everyone. Ignorance is no defence. He could have apologised and pleaded mitigating circumstances because of misinformation, in which case he might have got away with a warning. He had prior, which was always going count against him. He was even late for Court because he was addressing his supporters outside and was admonished after his barrister apologised. He didn't apologise. He made political statements from the dock. His behaviour did him no favours at all. Your repeated assertions that this was a "political and state persecution" is a baseless piece of propaganda. This isn't a police state. We just don't behave like that and only the truly myopic see persecution where none exists. I would welcome an answer these questions from you:- 1 Do you believe those who break the law should face the law? 2} Was "Robinson" found guilty of breaking the law? We can all disagree with various aspects of the law and with the decisions of Judges. What we cannot do is interfere with them. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 19 9.30pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No one knew that at the time....newspaper reported on the case as well.

This case did not require nor do any deserve any reporting restrictions. This is to keep the whole disgusting saga low key.

One of the main judges in this case said that Robinson did not endanger the trial.....he's been sent down for contempt....which is a shoe horn because their original charges failed.

This is political and state persecution and you are an apologist for the state who isn't worth time on these boards.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jul 2019 7.01pm)

Do you know when the reporting restrictions were imposed and why? I don't and I suspect only the Judge knows all the circumstances. If any newspaper did report on the case, whilst the restrictions were in place, and have not yet been prosecuted, then there is your perfect opportunity to expose hypocrisy. Present the evidence to "Robinson's legal team and they would have a field day.

You cannot possibly know whether this case deserved reporting restrictions. You are not in possession of all the relevant facts. Only the Judge making the order is. Asserting motives without knowledge, as you so often do, is what is disgusting.

It has been acknowledged, I guess because the Jury were already considering their verdict, that his actions could not have affected that particular trial but that is simply not the point. It might have affected other linked trials but, even if not, it still doesn't matter what the reasons were. The restrictions existed. They apply to everyone. Ignorance is no defence. He could have apologised and pleaded mitigating circumstances because of misinformation, in which case he might have got away with a warning. He had prior, which was always going count against him. He was even late for Court because he was addressing his supporters outside and was admonished after his barrister apologised. He didn't apologise. He made political statements from the dock. His behaviour did him no favours at all.

Your repeated assertions that this was a "political and state persecution" is a baseless piece of propaganda. This isn't a police state. We just don't behave like that and only the truly myopic see persecution where none exists.

I would welcome an answer these questions from you:-

1 Do you believe those who break the law should face the law?
2} Was "Robinson" found guilty of breaking the law?

We can all disagree with various aspects of the law and with the decisions of Judges. What we cannot do is interfere with them.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 19 9.36pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by braunstoneagle how do you guys manage to type with your knuckles dragging on the floor? f*** sake this whole thread is an utter embarrassment to palace fans. shame on you. Well said. The attitude on display here towards a trouble making, attention seeking rabble rouser with a pronounced dubious history is shameful. The way that two quite separate issues get conflated shows a total lack of understanding of our legal system. To go further and assert that this is state driven persecution is both risible and ridiculous. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

how do you guys manage to type with your knuckles dragging on the floor?

f*** sake this whole thread is an utter embarrassment to palace fans. shame on you.

Well said.

The attitude on display here towards a trouble making, attention seeking rabble rouser with a pronounced dubious history is shameful.

The way that two quite separate issues get conflated shows a total lack of understanding of our legal system. To go further and assert that this is state driven persecution is both risible and ridiculous.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 19 9.40pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ASCPFC You might have to wonder if the media coverage prejudiced Robinson's case? Then again, I guess you wouldn't. As was pointed out to me this wasn't a jury trial, possibly for this very reason, but that's just a guess. It was decided by a Judge who would not be affected by anything other than the evidence. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC

You might have to wonder if the media coverage prejudiced Robinson's case? Then again, I guess you wouldn't.

As was pointed out to me this wasn't a jury trial, possibly for this very reason, but that's just a guess. It was decided by a Judge who would not be affected by anything other than the evidence.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 19 9.50pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst Bottom line then. Is it the correct decision iyo. Or would a fine and suspended sentence be ok. After all what he exposed initially way back did progress the investigation. This is a make or break answer. I am not the Judge in possession of the facts presented by the prosecuting counsel or the defence by the defending counsel. Asserting that what he did earlier exposed the crimes, is very much an assumption which I, and many others don't share. If he took any evidence he had to the Police, rather than YouTube I might agree. He didn't. What he did was to promote a much wider criticism of Islam and not out of any genuine interest in the victims. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Originally posted by cryrst

Bottom line then.
Is it the correct decision iyo. Or would a fine and suspended sentence be ok.
After all what he exposed initially way back did progress the investigation.
This is a make or break answer.

I am not the Judge in possession of the facts presented by the prosecuting counsel or the defence by the defending counsel. Asserting that what he did earlier exposed the crimes, is very much an assumption which I, and many others don't share.

If he took any evidence he had to the Police, rather than YouTube I might agree. He didn't. What he did was to promote a much wider criticism of Islam and not out of any genuine interest in the victims.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Jul 19 10.00pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am not the Judge in possession of the facts presented by the prosecuting counsel or the defence by the defending counsel. Asserting that what he did earlier exposed the crimes, is very much an assumption which I, and many others don't share. If he took any evidence he had to the Police, rather than YouTube I might agree. He didn't. What he did was to promote a much wider criticism of Islam and not out of any genuine interest in the victims. Is this Illegal in the UK? Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Jul 19 10.00pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If he took any evidence he had to the Police, rather than YouTube I might agree. He didn't. What he did was to promote a much wider criticism of Islam and not out of any genuine interest in the victims.

Is this Illegal in the UK?

Pro USA & Israel

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cryrst The garden of England 12 Jul 19 10.01pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am not the Judge in possession of the facts presented by the prosecuting counsel or the defence by the defending counsel. Asserting that what he did earlier exposed the crimes, is very much an assumption which I, and many others don't share. If he took any evidence he had to the Police, rather than YouTube I might agree. He didn't. What he did was to promote a much wider criticism of Islam and not out of any genuine interest in the victims. A criticism of Islam. The religion of peace. Yeh right. Look at the protests about the school lessons on LGBTQ Headed by a Muslim man. Look at gays being thrown off buildings by muslims. Look at up to 25% (300000000) of worldwide muslims who would happily see the end of the western world. Look at most terrorism recently in western countries by muslims. How about you go to bethnal green and preach christianity or drink a beer or have a woman with risque clothing on. Dont give me the reigeon of peace. Explain Charlie hebdoe....about a cartoon. Go away with your Islam has no bad in it. He brought the grooming gangs to the police and look what has happened. The Quran even says one man is two women. Get with reality and take your political left wing glasses off. You may be the next London bridge !!! God rest their souls RIP.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

A criticism of Islam.
The religion of peace.
Yeh right.
Look at the protests about the school lessons on LGBTQ
Headed by a Muslim man.
Look at gays being thrown off buildings by muslims.
Look at up to 25% (300000000) of worldwide muslims who would happily see the end of the western world.
Look at most terrorism recently in western countries by muslims.
How about you go to bethnal green and preach christianity or drink a beer or have a woman with risque clothing on.
Dont give me the reigeon of peace.
Explain Charlie hebdoe....about a cartoon.
Go away with your Islam has no bad in it.
He brought the grooming gangs to the police and look what has happened.
The Quran even says one man is two women.
Get with reality and take your political left wing glasses off.
You may be the next London bridge !!!
God rest their souls RIP.

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becky over the moon 12 Jul 19 10.16pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am not the Judge in possession of the facts presented by the prosecuting counsel or the defence by the defending counsel. Asserting that what he did earlier exposed the crimes, is very much an assumption which I, and many others don't share. If he took any evidence he had to the Police, rather than YouTube I might agree. He didn't. What he did was to promote a much wider criticism of Islam and not out of any genuine interest in the victims. Maybe he was aware that the police and crown prosecution services had already been told (from the highest level) not to pursue the complaints from the girls and their families as they (the girls) had made their own sexual choices......would have made his compaints a bit of a waste of time. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Maybe he was aware that the police and crown prosecution services had already been told (from the highest level) not to pursue the complaints from the girls and their families as they (the girls) had made their own sexual choices......would have made his compaints a bit of a waste of time.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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cryrst The garden of England 12 Jul 19 10.36pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by becky Maybe he was aware that the police and crown prosecution services had already been told (from the highest level) not to pursue the complaints from the girls and their families as they (the girls) had made their own sexual choices......would have made his compaints a bit of a waste of time. Aged 12 and so on. It does fit the reasons behind not pursuing the groomers but I dont buy it. Fathers of the girls were threatened with arrest. Something is not ringing true and one day it will come out. I wonder if and when; that the people involved in a cover up will be hounded by the state. Much like TR.
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Originally posted by becky

Aged 12 and so on.
It does fit the reasons behind not pursuing the groomers but I dont buy it.
Fathers of the girls were threatened with arrest.
Something is not ringing true and one day it will come out.
I wonder if and when; that the people involved in a cover up will be hounded by the state.
Much like TR.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jul 19 10.42pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst A criticism of Islam. The religion of peace. Yeh right. Look at the protests about the school lessons on LGBTQ Headed by a Muslim man. Look at gays being thrown off buildings by muslims. Look at up to 25% (300000000) of worldwide muslims who would happily see the end of the western world. Look at most terrorism recently in western countries by muslims. How about you go to bethnal green and preach christianity or drink a beer or have a woman with risque clothing on. Dont give me the reigeon of peace. Explain Charlie hebdoe....about a cartoon. Go away with your Islam has no bad in it. He brought the grooming gangs to the police and look what has happened. The Quran even says one man is two women. Get with reality and take your political left wing glasses off. You may be the next London bridge !!! Edited by braunstoneagle (12 Jul 2019 10.43pm) �Football isn�t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.� Ian Holloway
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Edited by braunstoneagle (12 Jul 2019 10.43pm)

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Stirlingsays 12 Jul 19 11.17pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by braunstoneagle how do you guys manage to type with your knuckles dragging on the floor? f*** sake this whole thread is an utter embarrassment to palace fans. shame on you. Knuckle dragging? You can't even write properly so don't talk to us about sophistication. You don't get to define what opinion is acceptable. If you don't like the site take your opinions elsewhere. Also, you can take that shame you think we should have for opinions you don't like and shove it somewhere intimate. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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how do you guys manage to type with your knuckles dragging on the floor?

f*** sake this whole thread is an utter embarrassment to palace fans. shame on you.

Knuckle dragging? You can't even write properly so don't talk to us about sophistication. You don't get to define what opinion is acceptable. If you don't like the site take your opinions elsewhere.

Also, you can take that shame you think we should have for opinions you don't like and shove it somewhere intimate.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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