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If you check you said his much wider criticism of Islam.
I was putting reasons why he would do this.
Your words wissy.

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Correct Answer. I have no truck with TR, but when I see militant islamists openly espousing their crap it appears to me a one sided argument.
TR Bad & Islamist Scumbag Nah you're Ok..........

Pro USA & Israel

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Out of context! My remark was about what his activities are generally.

Him being convicted on contempt charges has no connection to that.

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You do push the boundaries of credibility sometimes don't you? Your relation to the truth is similar to your hero in the WH! For both of you it's whatever you happen to think is true.

As my own bias is towards objective truth, rather than opinion masquerading as truth, I feel quite comfortable knowing that you think my arguments are "ridiculous". I would feel concern if you agreed with me, given your track record.

You claimed that the AG was involved in the appointment. He wasn't. Not only does he not appoint Judges he has no role to which Judge cases get allocated.

The fact remains that the Judges found "Robinson" guilty in the first trial, which was then overturned on a technicality. The fact remains that he was found guilty in the second trial, which was held after the result of the first was referred to the AG and he decided that there were public interest considerations. From our local paper:-

"A statement from the Attorney General's office said Mr Cox had reached his decision based on an assessment of the evidence and whether it was in the "wider public interest".

Mr Cox said: "After carefully considering the details of this case, I have concluded there are strong grounds to bring fresh contempt of court proceedings against Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson)".

That the AG is a sitting Tory MP is obvious. He could hardly not be. Nor is it surprising he has previous made critical comments about "Robinson". Many MPs have, in fact I cannot think of one MP who has supported him. (even Farage has distanced himself).

Obviously bringing the case was thought to be important. I agree. "Robinson" has been attracting a lot of attention, and raising lots of money for himself through his behaviour, and has been inciting people to react. Whilst protest is fine, the kind of direct action that exists on the fringes of those who support him, and the threats of violence that come from some of them, must never be tolerated. As I have said many times, "Robinson" is no hero. He is a loutish rabble rouser with a very dubious history. It is only right that when he steps over the line he is not allowed to get away with it. We cannot allow such precedents.

The difference is as obvious as anything could be. Assigning motivation to people like Trump is easy to determine, for he makes no attempt to disguise it. When the UK legal system makes an opaque decision to vary the charges no-one, other than an informed lawyer, ought to venture an opinion. The only thing I am quite sure of is that there could not have been any kind of "political" motivation. Never confuse "public interest" with politics. I am quite sure all the politicians would have supported the AG in this, whatever their particular political leanings.

Rubbish. He was preaching to the audience outside and nothing else. Just more rabble rousing. I would have given him an extra 3 months for disrespect.
The idea that the UK is a "corrupt state" that would hold a "show trial" and "persecute" one of it's citizens shows just how biased you are! This is not the attitude of a proud Englishman who supports his country through thick and thin. Who stands up for our heritage and envied system of justice. This is the view of someone who has lost touch with reality. "Robinson" is a convicted criminal, who has been through due process and presumably has the right of appeal. The law protects everyone from persecution, whatever it's source. Prove it, and he walks free with compensation and a story to sell. I am not holding my breath.

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Those are perfectly legitimate arguments and ones that need to be made and discussed.

I do though take issue that "Robinson" has helped with this debate. He hasn't. He has stirred up hatred and given succour to some pretty nasty elements in our society. We need cooler heads than his to lead this discussion.

I had relatives who moved out of Southall in the '60s and moved, strangely enough to Cornwall, because of the influx from India and Africa that happened then. Many of these considerations were in play then but the incoming communities have largely prospered and become accepted. I passed through Heathrow yesterday, and was served by a variety of British asians, all very helpful, polite and undoubtedly British, sharing the humour and accent. Close your eyes and you would not know we looked different. It just takes time, schooling and patience. Heathrow could not operate without them.

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Pro Robinson protests at Parliament and at Belmarsh Prison today.

Belmarsh Prison....a f***ing category A prison for a contempt of court charge.

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