Because your generation are a bunch of spoilt, unimaginative, gender-confused, effete, Corbyn-loving Remainers, pussies and benders.

Edited by Cucking Funt (24 Jul 2019 12.53pm)

Because your generation are a bunch of spoilt, unimaginative, gender-confused, effete, Corbyn-loving Remainers, pussies and benders.

Edited by Cucking Funt (24 Jul 2019 12.53pm)

Yes, and he proved my point.......

- I've regularly eaten bread and sugar for tea on Thursdays because there was no money til Father brought his pay packet home on Friday.

- More than one or two new garments a year was a luxury, everything else was hand me downs and jumble sale recycles (except shoes and underwear - Mum was very particular about that - although I have gone to school in mismatched shoes)

- University was for rich people - even with the then student grant - most just had to get out and get a job and earn a wage. (I paid fully for my own degree course in my 30's - not a repay when you earn loan)

- Yes, rents and purchase prices were lower, but mortgages were still near impossible to get for low earners. If you didn't qualify for council housing, you lived with your parents (even after marriage until you could get a deposit together).

- When you did get a mortgage, it was at 6-7% interest rate, and at one point in the 80's hit 14%.... try that on 80's wages!

- Abroad was somewhere you went with Thomas Cook for 2 weeks every year - but it didn't matter too much because it was full of foreigners anyway

and let's not forget the times when outside lavatories were common, central heating was unheard of, running hot water was a luxury for the few and some people were still living in pre-fabs from the war because there was a housing shortage.

I would imagine that Dan's been spared most, if not all of the above hardships of life which were pretty common when I was younger.

Out of interest Dan H, have you lived in a house with an outside toilet, without central heating, without double glazing and then only secondary double glazing? Without a television (age 10) or a car (until I bought one)? Hand me down clothes, second hand toys and bikes? My parents scrimped and saved to buy their house. They didn't smoke, rarely drank. Dad was a bus driver/ Mum a school diner lady. They worked for what they got for sure, as have I.
My children moan if the Wifi doesn't work for 5 minutes. The world has no doubt moved on but much of it through the efforts of the generation you much malign.

Edit: note to self to read the thread in full first, as Becky has summed up things quite nicely in her post. My parents never had a holiday abroad. The only time my Dad went abroad was when he fought in the 2nd world war as a teenager as a rear gunner in a Wellington bomber

Edited by Bexley Eagle (24 Jul 2019 4.19pm)

I had to pay for my university education. I only got on the housing ladder 2 years ago over the age of 30 due to the cost of renting, cost of living, and average salary v house price ratio being way way higher than my parents' generation, my right to live and work in the EU is being taken away by a majority of people who will be dead in the next 20 years and this over entitled bunch of babies in government are sleep walking us into a clusterf*ck of a situation.

But yeah, my generation have it on a plate and still want more. We haven't had anything easy.

I've have some sympathy for this view.....I regard the answer as mixed.

Firstly I'd say that in general older generations were better people who were more loyal to the country and what it means. We had lower crime and we had higher social cohesion even though the class system was less disguised.

Those generations had it harder in the sense of the technology of modern times wasn't there. A lot of today's comforts and conveniences are the result of technological leaps forward rather than any social or political refinements.

People died earlier and in more pain and if you were poor it was s***e....and more s***e than today because technology wasn't there to dull the boredom.

But as said....if you had a bit of money as a 'baby boomer' you benefited from a generational situation that gave you far cheaper housing both public and private, helped from the reconstruction of the Marshall plan....that generation used that ladder and its leaders pulled the ladder up.

Post war generations also benefited from a population size that placed far less strain on public infrastructure.

Today's generation have all the technology improvements and live lives that are more comfortable than that of kings of decades ago......However they are having to exist in a time where the housing ladder has been pulled up for many of them and due to population increases and housing inaction costs and prices are absurd.

Today's average couple face a load of debt and a state that increasingly regards them as fodder both economically and socially. Both man and woman are expected to work just to remain above water....The days of the working man bringing home his wages for the wife to housekeep are far less common and for many that has lead to far more stressful lives.

Anyway.....I've bleeding depressed myself....I'm going to look in the cupboard for a jam doughnut.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Jul 2019 8.01pm)