Not a recruitment problem? Who do you think are mucking about with the children?.....berks filling forms in the office?

Those tasked with looking into it will have their recommendations, however as a lay opinion I'd say these issues are about pay, and the standard of the people hired....there has always been a filtering issue with the type of person attracted to those jobs....most people are great but we all know what I mean.

To talk about Robinson again on this case is once again introducing a different argument. Once again, I'll tell you that Robinson has of course condemned all child abuse....You aren't interested.

Robinson is anti Islamic, the rape gangs are one of the areas he has campaigned upon not the only one.....it says something that you seem to think that's all he does.....You are happy for fake narratives to be pushed as we saw recently.

To say that he should be just doing all child abuse is as ridiculous as saying why aren't the people who focused their inquiry into these Islamic gang rapes doing all child abuse?

Obvious answer: because Islamic rapes gangs is a specific problem with its own dynamics.....just like the abuse at these children centres is..... Robinson is focused upon Islam

Stop conflating problems.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Aug 2019 12.28am)

Looking at your post you posted this up just a few hours after it appeared and then suggest that Hrolf isn't 'engaged'. I think you should pull your horns in.

How long should it take to process? Why ask me that? As long as it takes...if this has been the case over decades then I want to know what has happened and why.

Once again, people have posted about child abuse on this forum since I turned up in 2009. You are just out of order suggesting people have a lack of care.

People post about what is in the news and that's happening here.....You decided to make this particular story about Robinson which is a conflation and misdirects from this particular case.

I have always said that the activities of Robinson detracts from a proper discussion about the broader issue. It is not a Muslim problem it is rooted throughout society.

Of course it's about recruitment, how you recruit for example....is this one person or a team interviewing, what's the oversight and so on.

You make claims that I have little doubt have some validity but the whole picture would be far more nuanced.

I don't personally believe that child abusers can completely take over a facility and just select other child abusers to the exclusion of others...I'm sure it happened that abusers teamed up.....but exclusivity seems far fetched to me....as is the idea that nobody checks.....complaints were filed since the sixties, so obviously there was checking. We have to see what went wrong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Aug 2019 6.47am)

Do some research then read my post again.

There is no sign that people looked to bring in like minded mates. But once in such people enjoyed the environment (God help us) and apparently knew others were also abusers. So the worst tended to stay and would turn a blind eye to the others. But some utilised that knowledge to get more power.

Any complaints were brushed under the carpet and almost nothing has been done in 50 years.

I am shocked at your blasé approach to this. It is a massive scandal yet has never been fully addressed

Why has it not received the attention and more to the point actual justice that seems to have been focused on the grooming gangs?

50 years for goodness sake, and you say we have to wait to see. This is why I get angry.