Noting that 18% also state "terrorism" as their primary concern it's not beyond the realms to think that many of those would also state immigration as very high on their list (although obviously that view would be somehow racist).

You could also argue that the economic situation is exacerbated by mass immigration, it's making the debt mountain much bigger due to the huge cost of social care and climate change is certainly not being helped by moving huge numbers of people from a 3rd to first world carbon footprint. Then you are pretty much covering everything on that list.

But then again people will either deliberately or automatically conflate "blaming the immigrants" with "blaming immigration" and we go back to square one.

The thing that most people seem to be unaware of is the extent to which capitalism (even with all it's clear faults that need reforming) and the products and technology it has produced are dragging the world out of poverty. Very few seem to understand this hence the push for socialism in the west. Under socialism the whole world will suffer.

I realise the "official" definition is that but........

If you define it that way you produce a distortion of the causes of the events which hit the headlines and are of the most concern to the majority of people.

It's the large scale events which attract the attention. Ones where automatic weapons are used in schools, churches, malls or nightclubs to mow people down indiscriminately.

Smaller events involving inter gang rivalries and domestic violence, whilst of great concern, cannot be considered in the same category. They have different causes and are committed by different people.

So we need to separate them to try to produce any meaningful solutions.

Large scale mass shootings in the USA are committed almost exclusively by white men.

By the way you will recall what Mark Twain said about "Lies, damn lies and statistics".

It seems quite appropriate given another comment!

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (08 Aug 2019 6.05pm)

It's quite amusing that this guy comes up with 'Lies, damn lies and statistics'.....Twain said it of course but it didn't originate with him....Which Twain said himself at the time.....But what does this guy tell you....He comes up with Twain....it's typical of most of what he pushes on here...half truths and wish fulfillment.

But that's the point.....the easily fooled both believe and promote in error.....and some are just bare faced liars and exploiters.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2019 8.06pm)

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled".

Sadly you'll never understand.

No, it's sad tbf given his age.

I will comment on individual events on their individual merits and not in sweeping generalisations.

4 deaths being a mass killing is NOT so defined by the US law. Definitions vary.

So everything you say is a waste of space, time and effort.