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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Aug 19 1.59pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

If you consider it, the state prosecutor was telling the truth. There was no evidence of a deliberate act the day after the fire. No one had looked for any so there wasn't any.

The elephant in the room is elephants; firstly, there have been Islamic attacks on Christian sites. I believe there was a heightened official threat issued in Europe. I suppose it is possible.

There have also been widespread, protests, demonstrations and riots from the yellow vests. They have, in cases, used fire as a weapon. However, it would be hard to see any point in burning down the cathedral.

The third area of France that has caused civil problems and violent clashes has been homelessness and illegal immigration. This has produced widespread tent accommodation in Paris. It so happens that many camp around religious sites. There do seem to have been encampments around Notre Dame.

I must say though, that with Notre Dame, the most likely cause seems accidental; it's an old building with nooks and crannies, poor electrics and plenty of old wood. I should think they will eventually explain the cause. Or will they?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 12 Aug 19 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

If you consider it, the state prosecutor was telling the truth. There was no evidence of a deliberate act the day after the fire. No one had looked for any so there wasn't any.

The elephant in the room is elephants; firstly, there have been Islamic attacks on Christian sites. I believe there was a heightened official threat issued in Europe. I suppose it is possible.

There have also been widespread, protests, demonstrations and riots from the yellow vests. They have, in cases, used fire as a weapon. However, it would be hard to see any point in burning down the cathedral.

The third area of France that has caused civil problems and violent clashes has been homelessness and illegal immigration. This has produced widespread tent accommodation in Paris. It so happens that many camp around religious sites. There do seem to have been encampments around Notre Dame.

I must say though, that with Notre Dame, the most likely cause seems accidental; it's an old building with nooks and crannies, poor electrics and plenty of old wood. I should think they will eventually explain the cause. Or will they?

Well, whatever the outcome....progress is going at a snail's pace.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Aug 19 3.03pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Wouldn't that require a theory to be proposed?

I'm putting out questions as to how the state have responded to the event and I'm suspicious of their motives.

As to the cause of the fire, I'm not putting forward any theory....that's partly the point....we should know by now.


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Aug 2019 11.49am)


So you are suggesting there may be a conspiracy, let's call that suggestion a theory.

When Dan implied that you are incorrect when you state you are not one for conspiracy theories, it does appear to me that was relevant to the thread innit. We can then read the thread in the knowledge that you are somewhat suspicious, almost superstitious.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Aug 19 3.04pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

If you consider it, the state prosecutor was telling the truth. There was no evidence of a deliberate act the day after the fire. No one had looked for any so there wasn't any.

The elephant in the room is elephants; firstly, there have been Islamic attacks on Christian sites. I believe there was a heightened official threat issued in Europe. I suppose it is possible.

There have also been widespread, protests, demonstrations and riots from the yellow vests. They have, in cases, used fire as a weapon. However, it would be hard to see any point in burning down the cathedral.

The third area of France that has caused civil problems and violent clashes has been homelessness and illegal immigration. This has produced widespread tent accommodation in Paris. It so happens that many camp around religious sites. There do seem to have been encampments around Notre Dame.

I must say though, that with Notre Dame, the most likely cause seems accidental; it's an old building with nooks and crannies, poor electrics and plenty of old wood. I should think they will eventually explain the cause. Or will they?

Latest reports coming from Paris say that police wish to question a suspect who was seen leaving the vicinity around the time of the fire.

He's been described as a mature white male, deaf and walks with a stoop.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Aug 19 3.10pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, whatever the outcome....progress is going at a snail's pace.

It's almost like the building was nearly 1,000 years old, the fire decimated a large part of it, along with probably most clues as to what actually started it, they had to make it structurally safe before any one could even safely enter that part of it to start working out what happened, and any salvageable part of it they are going to painstaking lengths to try and preserve.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

So you are suggesting there may be a conspiracy, let's call that suggestion a theory.

When Dan implied that you are incorrect when you state you are not one for conspiracy theories, it does appear to me that was relevant to the thread innit. We can then read the thread in the knowledge that you are somewhat suspicious, almost superstitious.

My words are my words, not your words.

You are hardly one to talk about conspiracies....You're the one on here who suggested that the Jews created IQ tests to favour themselves......which was amusingly also a Nazi conspiracy contention from the thirties.

Perhaps you picked it up from all that Al Jazeera you watch.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Aug 2019 3.17pm)

 


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Originally posted by DanH

It's almost like the building was nearly 1,000 years old, the fire decimated a large part of it, along with probably most clues as to what actually started it, they had to make it structurally safe before any one could even safely enter that part of it to start working out what happened, and any salvageable part of it they are going to painstaking lengths to try and preserve.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Besides this doesn't even address the issues I've stated.,,,didn't you even read the post?


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Aug 2019 3.23pm)

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Aug 19 3.28pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Besides this doesn't even address the issues I've stated.,,,didn't you even read the post?


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Aug 2019 3.23pm)

You create your own non-issues which don't warrant addressing.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

You create your own non-issues which don't warrant addressing.

Ok, if that's your view and you don't wish to address my questions.....why are you posting at me?

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 12 Aug 19 3.39pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You create your own non-issues which don't warrant addressing.

How do you know it doesn't warrant addressing? Don't you think it's a teeny bit odd that they were so quick to dismiss all possibilities so quickly? And don't you think it's more odd still that the cause still hasn't been determined and revealed? Bloody rum, I call it, and you don't need to be a rampant, paranoid conspiracy theorist to think so, either.

Edited by Cucking Funt (12 Aug 2019 3.40pm)

 


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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

How do you know it doesn't warrant addressing? Don't you think it's a teeny bit odd that they were so quick to dismiss all possibilities so quickly? And don't you think it's more odd still that the cause still hasn't been determined and revealed? Bloody rum, I call it, and you don't need to be a rampant, paranoid conspiracy theorist to think so, either.

Edited by Cucking Funt (12 Aug 2019 3.40pm)

See my post above. The first wasn’t even 4 months ago.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

See my post above. The first wasn’t even 4 months ago.

I saw your incorrect use of the word "decimate" and that turned me right off.

 


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