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Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 5.15pm
Unless news becomes state controlled there will be no significant change in how mass shootings are covered because that goes against how human beings work. The news is about making money.....more eyes on the screen equals more ad revenue.....Hence news organisations are always going to capitalise on terrible events. Until such time human nature changes so that..for example, people stop slowing down at car crashes this isn't going to change....and I'm not a believer that human nature changes. Even if the state did jump in and regulate it.....then like p*** on the internet or banned drugs..... it would pop up somewhere else. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 5.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

02 Sep 19 5.15pm

Unless news becomes state controlled there will be no significant change in how mass shootings are covered because that goes against how human beings work.

The news is about making money.....more eyes on the screen equals more ad revenue.....Hence news organisations are always going to capitalise on terrible events.

Until such time human nature changes so that..for example, people stop slowing down at car crashes this isn't going to change....and I'm not a believer that human nature changes.

Even if the state did jump in and regulate it.....then like p*** on the internet or banned drugs..... it would pop up somewhere else.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 5.16pm)

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deleted user 02 Sep 19 5.49pm
True but there's a difference between having something put front and centre and having to search it out. It'd be a positive step to not feature, say, manifesto details or even the faces of mass shooters on TV. Some channels no doubt already do this. NZ I believe too. Plenty will search this stuff out, but plenty won't, and it's better than giving people what they view to be their moment in the sun by default.
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02 Sep 19 5.49pm

True but there's a difference between having something put front and centre and having to search it out. It'd be a positive step to not feature, say, manifesto details or even the faces of mass shooters on TV. Some channels no doubt already do this. NZ I believe too. Plenty will search this stuff out, but plenty won't, and it's better than giving people what they view to be their moment in the sun by default.

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Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 5.53pm
Originally posted by dollardays True but there's a difference between having something put front and centre and having to search it out. It'd be a positive step to not feature, say, manifesto details or even the faces of mass shooters on TV. Some channels no doubt already do this. NZ I believe too. Plenty will search this stuff out, but plenty won't, and it's better than giving people what they view to be their moment in the sun by default. I think there is sense in what you say. While human nature is what it is, there is little doubt that the angels of it can be more encouraged perhaps than the devils. However, as we know....news is about the green. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 5.55pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Sep 19 5.53pm

Originally posted by dollardays

I think there is sense in what you say.

While human nature is what it is, there is little doubt that the angels of it can be more encouraged perhaps than the devils.

However, as we know....news is about the green.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 5.55pm)

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W12 03 Sep 19 12.33pm
Originally posted by dollardays Unfortunately I don't think anything will. How we cover these events should probably change though. The 24 news cycle focus. People realise that there's an attention they can receive through this that would never otherwise be remotely possible. There's likely sometimes a disturbingly fine line between someone committing these acts of barbarism vs just getting on with the mundanity of a semi ordinary life. Yeah I don't disagree with you again but I can't see this happening. The Democrats especially have a vested interested in highlighting any shooting. They know confiscation is the main hurdle they face in order to implement their socialist panacea. Also, news is becoming increasingly decentralized. We can see this as mainstream media has started to go out of business and "conspiracy theories" are starting to look a lot less funny. It's going to be hard to keep anything out of the news although the big tech platforms are trying their hardest to do this with censorship rife.
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W12 03 Sep 19 12.33pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Unfortunately I don't think anything will. How we cover these events should probably change though. The 24 news cycle focus. People realise that there's an attention they can receive through this that would never otherwise be remotely possible. There's likely sometimes a disturbingly fine line between someone committing these acts of barbarism vs just getting on with the mundanity of a semi ordinary life.

Yeah I don't disagree with you again but I can't see this happening. The Democrats especially have a vested interested in highlighting any shooting. They know confiscation is the main hurdle they face in order to implement their socialist panacea.

Also, news is becoming increasingly decentralized. We can see this as mainstream media has started to go out of business and "conspiracy theories" are starting to look a lot less funny. It's going to be hard to keep anything out of the news although the big tech platforms are trying their hardest to do this with censorship rife.

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deleted user 03 Sep 19 3.48pm
Originally posted by W12 Yeah I don't disagree with you again but I can't see this happening. The Democrats especially have a vested interested in highlighting any shooting. They know confiscation is the main hurdle they face in order to implement their socialist panacea. Also, news is becoming increasingly decentralized. We can see this as mainstream media has started to go out of business and "conspiracy theories" are starting to look a lot less funny. It's going to be hard to keep anything out of the news although the big tech platforms are trying their hardest to do this with censorship rife. It's a good point about news becoming decentralised. I'd say right now there is still a certain weight to televised news and newspapers. The numbers are still there, even though they are falling significantly over time. That's my thinking behind 'hoping' at least that approaches are adopted that take the kind of poster boy morbidity to these shootings. Longer term though, I agree, how people receive their news will become more and more fragmented. I don't think the result of this will necessarily be less conspiracy theory focused or more accurate news, because many will just gravitate towards whatever is comforting and aligned with their existing outlook. I think that online fact checking can be really useful for televised news. If or when online completely takes over though, I wonder where that leaves us. On the positive side, governments like to set and push a narrative and as you hint at, it's much harder to keep the lid on things in currently less regulated media, like the online environment.
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03 Sep 19 3.48pm

Originally posted by W12

It's a good point about news becoming decentralised. I'd say right now there is still a certain weight to televised news and newspapers. The numbers are still there, even though they are falling significantly over time. That's my thinking behind 'hoping' at least that approaches are adopted that take the kind of poster boy morbidity to these shootings.

Longer term though, I agree, how people receive their news will become more and more fragmented. I don't think the result of this will necessarily be less conspiracy theory focused or more accurate news, because many will just gravitate towards whatever is comforting and aligned with their existing outlook. I think that online fact checking can be really useful for televised news. If or when online completely takes over though, I wonder where that leaves us.

On the positive side, governments like to set and push a narrative and as you hint at, it's much harder to keep the lid on things in currently less regulated media, like the online environment.

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